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Remember that time when you said spies can’t sleep in airports?

Hilarious.

Remember how you got in that discussion about Snowden without even knowing the meaning of the word espionage? I’m still laughing about that.

Remember how you couldn’t forecast that Snowden would get his passport cancelled for commiting espionage and fleeing the country? That was hilarious.

Remember that time you were wrong about Snowden but you couldn’t admit it so you just kept reposting the same comment?

That was funny

Looks like you don’t have any response to the facts.

I like how you pretend this is a waste of time so you have an excuse to not respond. But if that were true you just wouldn’t respond.

So your copy and paste reply is proof you can’t admit you are wrong.

I can't keep listening to you

This is called reading not listening. Maybe you’re hearing yourself struggle to sound out each word.

I like how you quoted around the part that didn't support your argument.

You asked me to share statements that Russia made that you mirrored. So I did.

Nice try changing the subject instead of acknowledging that you’re parroting Kremlin talking points.

Remember when he said he supported Kamala Harris when he was accused of election interference in the US?

Anyway, I think I'm done here. I was paying attention in 2013, so I actually followed the reporting on the Snowden leaks.

You were done when you revealed that you don’t even know the meaning of espionage.

Your whole argument is: -“Snowden threw away his life because he is such a nice guy.”

-“Snowden chose flights that land in Russia but it’s Americas fault he’s there!”

-“How could Snowden possibly know that his passport would be cancelled after committing espionage and fleeing the country.”

But you're blissfully unaware of this, just like you're unaware of the differences between Hong Kong and mainland China

You’ve been repeating Russian propaganda this whole time. I wanted to see if you would call Hong Kong China or repeat Chinese propaganda too.

Chelsea Manning was never suspected of being a spy

Again, Chelsea Manning plead guilty to espionage (being a spy). You’re trying to reject reality and replace it with your revisionism.

I mean, Jesus Chirst, you're quoting Obama talking about Snowden traveling without proper documentation without acknowledging that Obama canceled the documentation so he would be forced to stay in Russia. And you think that's proof that he's being treated differently than a normal American? Normal Americans don't get their passports canceled mid-flight.

“hOw CoUlD sNoWdEn KnOw HiS pAsSpOrT wOuLd Be CaNcElEd AfTeR cOmItTiNg EsPiOnAgE aNd FlEeInG tHe CoUnTrY?!”

Normal Americans don’t commit espionage and flee the country and then expect their passports to stay valid. This has to be the dumbest of all your arguments.

Like you couldn’t possibly forecast that a country would cancel a passport over espionage. I’m crying laughing at how stupid that is.

Also, do you know how long it took Snowden to leave the airport? Let's be honest, of course you don't, but I do: 40 days. He lived in an airport for 40 days before he even got temporary asylum. That's definitely how you treat one of your valued spies, huh?

Lmao, you’re going with “spies can’t sleep in airports”! I bet you think dogs can’t look up also…

"Snowden is not a traitor," said Putin. "He did not betray the interests of his country, nor did he transfer any information to any other country that would damage his own people," said Putin.

Snowden had the right to act in the way he did however, said Putin, who said he agreed that U.S. surveillance had become too intrusive, while praising his own country's intelligence services for operating within the law.

The Russian president also stressed Mr Snowden "is not our agent and does not co-operate with us", and Russian secret services "never worked with him and are not working with him now".

You’re obviously trying to make a strawman argument about Chelsea Manning working for Russia because I never mentioned it as a possibility.

Or maybe your reading comprehension is just really bad because this is the definition of espionage:

noun: espionage the practice of spying or of using spies, typically by governments to obtain political and military information.

You’ve proven you are willing to either lie or speak with confidence about things you don’t even know the definition of.

Being charged with espionage does not mean you are a spy.

Here is a quote from Obama:

Mr Snowden, we understand, has travelled there without a valid passport and legal papers. And we are hopeful the Russian government makes decisions based on the normal procedures regarding international travel and the normal interactions law enforcement have.

He points out that Russia is not treating Snowden the same as they do with anyone else. Which is what I’ve said also. This is called common sense not conspiracy, but you probably don’t know the definition of either.

Chelsea Manning plead guilty to espionage charge. This means she admitted she was a spy.

Whether or not she was spying for Russia hasn’t been determined to my knowledge.

Espionage is spying.

Snowden faces espionage (spying) charges which you have already acknowledged.

Proving whether or not he was spying for Russia is near impossible due to the nature of the crime so it is not a requirement of being charged with spying. This is why it wouldn’t be stated in your reference.

Instead, we have verified he committed espionage and that the stance of both the US and UK is that he was a spy.

So it comes down to who was he spying for?

Your conspiracy theory is that he ruined his life out of the kindness of his heart and it is just a coincidence that he ended up in Russia. Despite the fact that he chose to get on a plane headed there knowing his passport would be cancelled.

I think it is much more logical to infer that his motivation for spying was to serve the agenda of Russia. Because the consequences of his decisions are inline with Russian intelligence goals and he made deliberate choices that resulted in him receiving sanctuary in Russia.

As far as propaganda, your arguments have mirrored statements Russia has made on Snowden.

If Alexei Navalny had come to the U.S., don't you think we would have granted him Asylum?

Is Alexei Navalny a member of multiple Russian intelligence agencies? Nope.

Does the US have a history of locking up anyone from athletes, reporters, teachers, etc? Nope.

So there is no reason to believe he would have the same outcome as Snowden.

He had one assignment in Geneva, where he mostly did cybersecurity work. He had one field mission to recruit a Swiss Banker, and he was not good at it.

Why do you think you know the inner workings of intelligence agencies? I shouldn’t have to tell you that they are known for sharing as little as possible. It is their job.

Also, if you think Snowden was a Russian spy, don't you think anyone in the government would be eager to prove that?

He’s literally on the run to escape espionage charges…

Both the US and UK have very clearly accused him of being a spy…

Your extraordinary claim that Russia isn’t treating Snowden the same as they do any other US citizen is “just because”. That is an extraordinary claim with a laughable explanation.

Lucky enough to travel to Russia? You’re acting like he has no control over what flights he takes. Again without any explanation or even common sense.

Acting like he went to China (a rival to the US) because China is just super trustworthy. Again, a laughable explanation completely out of touch with reality. But hey, if Snowden said it it must be true.

Your conspiracy theories don’t hold up to any scrutiny.

Snowden was a spy. He fled to countries that commit the most espionage against the US because he was a spy. Those countries did NOT treat him like US intelligence agent even though he was, because he was a spy.

And the information he shared with the Gaurdian was from his time at the NSA, not the CIA.

This means he has more information than just a CIA agent.

You make it sound like he was James Bond

How so? All I did was point out that espionage verifiably exists and that it is the most logical explanation for Snowden to flee to Russia, given the fact that no US intelligence worker would be welcomed there unless they were leveraging their knowledge.

Instead of maintaining his position with the NSA so he could continue to feed Russia national security secrets, he decided the best thing to do was to blow up his cover by sharing his knowledge of the U.S.'s mass surveillance program, not with Russia, but with journalists.

Snowden “sharing his knowledge of the U.S.'s mass surveillance program”, had a negative impact on US citizens view of government, which has always been a goal of Russian espionage and psyop campaigns. You’re just reinforcing what I’ve already said.

Russia has Trump running the US as president. You think they can’t afford to expose Snowden to achieve their goals?

Just because Snowden shared his knowledge with journalists doesn’t mean he went to them first let alone exclusively.

None of your points hold up to scrutiny.

Snowden travelled from China (another enemy of US that’s working with Russia) to Russia with the end goal of going to Ecuador. All the US did was cancel his passport.

Russia could’ve treated Snowden the same as they do with anyone else who doesn’t have a passport. But for obvious reasons, they don’t.