Turun

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[–] Turun@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone already pointed out (thanks girl!), I never said they would get downvoted. It's just that if US news are upvoted and international news are not, then sorting by upvotes (which any reasonable algorithm will do), will inevitably lead to a reduced visibility of said international news.

Thanks to federation the frontpage itself is mostly non specific memes and tech/Linux content. But if you want a concrete example: here is a screenshot of !news@lemmy.world. the name of the community would suggest well, world news. The reality is ... Quite different:

The nine posts in the screenshot are about:

  • Elon musk (50/50)
  • Jk Rowling & a new Scottish law (international)
  • US traffic blockades (US)
  • Donald Trump (US)
  • Israel war (international)
  • US jails (US)
  • US housing (US)
  • Donald Trump (US)
  • Donald Trump (US)

If you want the space to have more equal representation, why not produce high-quality content that appeals to your fellows rather than moaning about people who by your own admission mean no harm?

As i have just explained in my first paragraph this will not be enough. (And that's aside from the extra effort required to keep up said high quality work. Even if it would lead to equal representation, it's an uphill battle.)

Are you sure you're not trying to find ways to justify anti-US bias?

Yes, I am sure. I am merely stating a fact. This dynamic develops in any online space with a clear majority group. For example, take the /r/de subreddit. It is the default subreddit for German speaking users on reddit. Austrian and Swiss users are explicitly invited. And yet, by sheer number of citizens the news about German politics dominate the submissions. I do no more resent Germans for up voting content that interest them on /r/de (for example myself) than I resent Americans upvoting content that interests them.

Similarly you can take any other instance that is specific to a group, be it defined via country (e.g. lemmy.ca) or shared interest/experience (e.g. lemmy.blahaj.zone) and you will find that minorities that are not part of that definition will inevitably be suppressed. But these country or interest specific instances do not claim to cover the world. In fact, OP was probably writing this post not due to the presence of US citizens on Lemmy, but due to the overwhelming presence of US citizens on an instance that claims to represent the world. Renaming !news@lemmy.world to !usnews@lemmy.world would go a long way.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly!

For what it's worth, the same issue exists in German speaking communities as well. /r/de is the subreddit for all German speakers. But while the Austrians and Swiss are explicitly invited too, by sheer number of citizens the news about German politics make up the vast majority of submissions in the subreddit.

The same probably applies to my account's instance (feddit.de), though I am not sure if the swiss and austrians have dedicated instances as well. Thanks to federation the effect is lessened, because every country (or otherwise defined group) can have their own frontpage. (E.g. lemmy.ca or lemmy.blahaj.zone)

[–] Turun@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (15 children)

No, not at all. But by sheer number of submissions and comments the collective hive mind will tend towards topics that are relevant for the biggest population.

It's nothing malicious. People are simply less likely to upvote and engage with content that does not interest them or is not relevant for them. All natural of course. But the side effect is that minority topics are suppressed.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

But the post was created on April the first - so is it meant to be taken seriously or not? Because that inverts the opinion and therefore my vote.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Because it means that contributions are always leaning towards American viewpoints. From politics being mainly concerned with US politics to comments being written from an English speaking, US perspective.

Would you join an instance with a dominating presence of Russian or Chinese or Brazilian or South African or Iranian users? I hope you can see why it matters now.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

No, it's fine. It's a PNG and readable. Could be higher resolution though, people are used to sharper text nowadays.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

You literally just posted proof that the image is stored as a PNG.
Take a look at the url again. The part after the ? is optional and can be removed.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks, It actually does, because the conversation factor is easy.

2e27 Å2 = 2e7 m2 = 20 km2

So an area 5km by 4km. You can now easily compare it to the size of your neighborhood, town or city.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The effort: getting a Visa, booking flights and hotels, taking a few days off work.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

They really could allow more short options in the help text though. I know that --six-word-option-that-is-really-long does what I want. I need to know if it's -p, -o, -f or whatever!

[–] Turun@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Jup, es hätte gewisse Vorteile. Ich bin prinzipiell auch dafür.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Das kann man nicht entkoppeln. Ändert man den Status quo muss man sich zwangsweise für etwas entscheiden.

Die Frage ist halt wann stoppen? In Polen wird's extrem früh dunkel, in Spanien extrem spät hell. Permanente Sommerzeit will Spanien verständlicher Weise nicht, sonst geht im Winter halt erst zu Mittag die Sonne auf (überspitzt formuliert) und Polen will verständlicher im Sommer keine Normalzeit.

Man ist sich aber einig, dass eine einheitliche Zeitzone für einfachere Logistik wünschenswert ist. Ergo nix passiert.

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