Turret3857

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[–] Turret3857 10 points 2 months ago

I'm not really sure what about the sandboxing makes it difficult to use. Most of the permissions are switches you can just toggle on or off. You can also root phones that run custom Roms (which are the only phones that are worth a damn IMHO) if you really want access to the entire fs.

You're more than welcome to use a less secure system, but most people would generally prefer a secure one.

[–] Turret3857 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean if you want to get technical, KitKat (4.4 in 2013) introduced verified boot. So from Android 1 to 4.4, it took about 5 years. I believe some form of sandboxing has always existed in Android, but the earliest version I can find online was in Android 5.

I feel like with the backing of Google, they were able to implement such tight security in their mobile OS without much pushback. Mobile Linux in it current state is entirely hobbyists with very few daily drivers. Unless someone can release some stunning Linux mobile hardware that a lot more enthusiasts buy I don't think we will see any sort of major progression in mobile Linux for some time, as the current method most mobile Linux uses is replacing the bootloader on the phone with an open source implementation which takes a lot of man power to achieve, and it would take even more to make it secure.

I would absolutely love to be proven wrong about the time frame however. The sooner secure Linux phones hit the market, the better the world will be.

[–] Turret3857 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

or Calyx or iodé or post market or Ubuntu touch or...

[–] Turret3857 4 points 2 months ago

A hardware switch for software accessing a directory?

[–] Turret3857 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (21 children)

Since the original user doesn't actually know the answer to the question asked, its because

Mobile Linux doesn't support any sort of verified boot like android does, leaving it open to evil maid attacks

Mobile Linux doesn't sandbox applications as well as android, leaving it open to spyware (Think Facebook intercepting Snapchat DMs, not old school steal your credit card spyware)

and I feel like there's a third major big thing but I can't recall it at the moment. Android's security model is genuinely one of the most secure out of any modern operating system. I'm all for Linux phones, but they need to prioritize parity with Android security before I daily drive one.

[–] Turret3857 15 points 2 months ago (24 children)

If you're on Graphene for security, Linux mobile will be the last thing you want as the security of those devices is akin to carrying around a bootloader unlocked android with no app sandboxing. You'd be better off buying a fair phone and using iodé until they can't develop any further.

[–] Turret3857 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Surprisingly I've been stuck on one hyperfocused hobby for line 5 years, self hosting and digital privacy. Just when I feel like I've made the perfect machine, I have to change something

[–] Turret3857 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)

did he really say that dumb shit? 😭

[–] Turret3857 7 points 2 months ago

the double whammy of using "retard" and trying to censor it is crazy. Are you a big man using a slur or not??

[–] Turret3857 141 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It definitely is. As someone who actually struggles with severe ADHD this comment makes my piss boil.

[–] Turret3857 12 points 2 months ago

jerking it daily gives you an extra inch for every year you do it

[–] Turret3857 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This implies Discord will not use messages sent to train AI.

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