Teknevra

Sorry if this question was asked before, I couldn't find convincing answers.

This is the part of the verse which says that (Sahih International translation)

But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them [lightly]. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allāh is ever Exalted and Grand.

Quran 4:34

The justifications I've seen for it:

1. This is only applied to men with really terrible wives who are incredibly disobedient.

2. The beating is done only as a last resort, if the first 2 stages fail.

3. A companion says in a hadith that the beating/darb is done with a miswak and is only symbolic to remind the wife of her disobedience and no physical harm. Hence the translation has lightly in [brackets].

4. The word "daraba" doesn't actually mean beating but means to separate from them.

5. The Prophet SAW never hit his wives so we also shouldn't do it.

6. Not something I've seen but a conclusion of mine: maybe men in 7th Century Arabia were extremely violent with their wives so this is actually considered a huge step up for them.

If this verse is the cause of many Muslim men beating their wives due to misinterpretation, why didn't Allah SWT make it clearer for us to avoid all this harm?

Might be a weird title so let me prelude - My mom is a Muslim and my dad is a Catholic, bith don't practice, my mom believes in God while my dad is a bit iffy about it and doesn't care... And is not a fan of the Catholic church ironically enough. (They are Bosniak and Croat, though both identify as Croatian).

Religion has always been tied to ethnic affiliation in my cultural sphere. I.e a Croat is a Catholic, a Bosniak a Muslim, a Serb Orthodox.

My household is secular and my mom isn't too informed on Islam, she was just born into it, same with my grandparents. We don't celebrate any holidays per say, but we acknowledge them (both Christian and Muslim - Eid Mubarak to y'all btw!).

I've been ruminating on Islam whether or not it fits me. Most principles do, same in Christianity (the commandments and such). I've also talked to Muslim friends who either told me to choose my own path or some said I should convert. Because I am rather knowledgeable in the religion, courtesy to my dilligent research. Some of my Catholic friends told me I should choose, if not for myself, for my future children. So they can have some foundational tradition to follow.

Thing is, the very word "Islam" - which means "To submit" is something my stubborness is unable to accept.

I see God, if he exists, as an indifferent programmer who set the rules of nature and let it play out. We are merely side-effects of those rules and owe nothing to God.

If anything, the greatest worship is to study nature and the sciences. To appreciate the universe and all its beauty.

I base my code of ethics on an amalgam of things, including what I was taught and instilled with by my parents and friends. Honor, loyalty, humbleness, discipline etc... From the Slavic mythos of "Being happy on the happiness of ithers" and the sanctity of nature to the teachings of Christ and the very discipline practiced by faithful Muslims.

I have mentioned that I am too stubborn to submit, but I remain humble in front of nature. I have no control over it. But collectively we as mankind can have control over it. In short - we are children (children of God) and eventually we will come out of the cradle.

Anyway, my main concern is lack of community. And the worry if I meet someone my non-adherence will cost me a relationship. I was already rejected, despite not having interest in anything deeper at the time. But it made me think. Since I do have a lot of Muslims acquaintances and contact with Muslims, including my family, that it would cause a problem.

My parents, and grandparents, frankly didn't give a damn. Religion was a non-issue, and barely discussed. But even if I were forced to choose, I wouldn't take the shahada if it was insincere and only for marriage.

I am just exploring. I am attemoting to find a way, a tradition to live by. Not a God to worship. And I will probably forge my own path.

But you never know.

Thank you for reading! Blessed Eid/Kurban Bajram to you!

Allah bless everyone, I hope everyone has a great day!

My high school bully was a masculine homophobic chauvinist, and then during senior year she got really quiet and spent all class watching jschlatt and two years later I found out that she's a beautiful trans girl like wtf

Hope this is real

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I was the woman at the well. Ashamed. Rejected. Used to being passed over. Carrying wounds, hiding behind walls, Searching for love-but settling for survival.

But Jesus didn't pass me by. He met me right where I was-mess and all. He spoke truth that cut deep... Then offered living water that healed even deeper.

He didn't see me as too far gone- He saw me as someone worth redeeming.

I was the woman at the well. Now I'm the woman who ran back to town Saying, "Come meet the One who changed everything."