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for the "younger" demographic we reference the 36 year old song instead of the 54 year old song.

proposing that people have to do the killing and/or butchering of an animal in order to acquire it is not analogous to requiring that people mine raw materials, process them into everything needed to produce semiconductors, and then build there own electronics "from scratch".

No they're not perfectly analogous. But why "propose" anything? If you're Vegan why not just say "people shouldn't eat meat, carnists can get fucked"? Proposing a change in the rules of how meat should be eaten is just a reformist half measure. And the truth is you're not going to get anywhere without revolutionary activity. If you really had the power to enforce the rule that people can only eat meat if they butcher it themselves, then that would be reflective of a society in which a revolution has already happened. But we don't live in that kind of society. Nobody is going to pass that law because we live in a society run by carnists and capitalists. If you truly lived in a society where you could force the rules to be that, then you might as well just make eating meat entirely illegal at that point.

It's not entirely an age thing. Yes to an extent neuroplasticity decreases, attitudes become ossified, struggle of youth becomes forgotten, the material comforts of "getting yours" etc.

But I think most of it is indoctrination. If it were simply age then that would mean most people on here are going to become conservatives in old age and I just don't see that happening. I'm over 30 and I keep moving left. I was much more reactionary at 15 than I am now. I think we have access to information previous generations did not, however we also go out of our way to vet sources, etc. There are lots of young people who get caught in a reactionary echo chamber. In particular people over 40 have been taught that Israel is the "only democracy in the middle east" etc.

Mark Ames of Radio War Nerd, a Gen X guy, went on Chapo, and talked about how he was a Republican Zionist in the 1980s and one of the things that got him to open his eyes was going to Israel and seeing how much it didn't live up to what he was told about it. The 2nd thing was getting spied on by the ADL for being an anti-apartheid activist. Even though he was a Republican Zionist and Jewish, the fucking ADL was spying on him, for being left wing on an issue totally unrelated to Israel. That made him move left. So it's not just age, it's escaping your reactionary echo chamber.

You're making a separate argument. The argument OP is making is that people shouldn't be able to eat animals if they can't butcher them. Which isn't really a Vegan argument, or even an argument against making animals suffer since it implies that people should be able to eat meat as long as they have experience hunting and butchering. As someone else said

Killing something yourself doesn't make it better or worse, this argument just appeals to you because you know many people wouldn't be able to. Wanting to make fewer people eat meat is cool and good, but vapid sophistry is not how you get there.

If anything, the problem with hieroglyphics is they weren't simple enough. They were designed to be used by a priestly class and nobody else. Then even that priestly class thought it was too annoying to draw a whole ass picture for a syllable or a number and they invented hieratic cursive to greatly simplify the writing process.

He looks like Austin powers without glasses

I should probably delete this thread then.

I think in the case of South Africa they only polled white people lol

milei claiming he is going to abolish every single ministry in the argentinian government

milei saying he's gonna chainsaw the banks while reving a chainsaw

milei waving the flag of isn'trael

misery dooby loving company

leave him alone, this post will give him a stroke lmfao

I think Varoufakis rants about this a lot