wow just like freaking gambo thrones
Tachanka
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someone break out a salad version of the "sandwich alignment chart"
transphobes will literally just reverse the order of the photos, lying about which direction the transition went in.
make 'em sleep with the fishes
"If just everything was different it wouldn't have to be like this"
No that's what you were doing when you were whining about the dirty proles buying too many luxury goods (when they spend most of their income on necessities). The conspicuous consumption of luxury goods is mostly done by petit-bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie living in the imperial core. It's Kylie Jenner burning through 55,000 gallons of Jet Fuel on 2 minute flights, not the janitor.
You're just saying nothing
You literally have no response. I actually quoted your points and deconstructed them. You're dismissing mine because you are the one who in fact has nothing to say.
and for some reason defending the proles that think the immigrant is the problem and vote further right than your traditional conservative because they front some madman saying the immigrant bad.
Reactionary proletarians exist because of false consciousness and conservative indoctrination emanating from capitalist control over the media. You want me to blame the brainwashed and not the brainwashers. You want me to be a classist liberal seething about the voting habits of unwashed "hicks" and not looking at the actual material conditions of the working class.
Also immigrants are proletarians too. Ethnic minorities and LGBTQIA are proletarians too. Proletarian is not a term reserved for anti-immigrant white supremacists, who skew petit-bourgeois anyway. I refuse to envision millions of nurses, janitors, teachers, factory workers, farm workers, cashiers, waiters, cooks, etc. as a bunch of MAGA goons seething about nonwhites coming into their country. That's not what the majority of the proletariat is. You're describing the political ideology of the white supremacist and settler colonist and pretending that is what proletarians are. Your vision is limited not only by living in the imperial core (first world) but also by a singular obsession with politics as it exists in Amerikkka and nowhere else.
Also immigrants are both used and scapegoated by the ruling class. The imperial core through economic and military policy upends the quality of life in developing nations, incentivizing the people living there to move to the imperial core where wages are higher. Why are wages higher in the imperial core? Imperialism. What happens when the labor market of the imperial core is flooded with immigrants. Wages drop. This means capitalists in the imperial core can get away with paying workers less. Then they blast us with propaganda to blame the immigrant instead of them. so they create the root cause for immigration in the first place, and then once the immigrants show up they use them as political scapegoats and sources of cheap labor. They blast us 24/7 with that kind of propaganda, and some people fall for it. But not the majority of the working class, who you clearly look down on, and which includes the immigrants themselves.
Even Lenin and Trotsky said the proles were removed.
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source?
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if they said anything close to what you are saying, I'm sure it's in a massively different context than you're implying. they were probably describing the ignorance of the proletariat the results from them BEING DELIBERATELY DEPRIVED OF EDUCATION BY THE RULING CLASS.
different people can come to the same conclusions for different reasons.
- reactionaries sometimes come to the conclusion that capitalism is bad. Not because of bourgeoisie vs. proletariat or theft of surplus value, but because it's "destroying the family" or "turning everyone woke" or it's "run by the jews" or it's "bringing too many immigrants to my country"
- communists come to the conclusion that capitalism is bad because it oppresses the proletariat and is closely linked with imperialism and colonialism, and various oppressions and phobias against vulnerable and marginalized groups.
- same conclusion, different reasons behind it.
different people can also come to different conclusions for the same reasons.
- pacifists come to the conclusion that it is wrong to use violence because they are against oppression.
- communists come to the conclusion that it is correct to use violence because they are against oppression.
- different conclusions, same reasons behind it.
so looking at Ukraine. You often see conservative foreign policy realists like John Mearsheimer for example, calling out America's role in this conflict. Why does he disagree with it? Is it because he's against American imperialism in Eastern Europe? No. Is it because he's against NATO? No. Is it because he wants Russia to win? No. He loves American imperialism. He's in favor of NATO. He wants America to win. He views America's role in Ukraine as a strategic failure. The empire overextending itself and accelerating its own decline by biting off more than it can chew. His critique is entirely strategic. He thinks America has strategically failed to do imperialism competently. He wants the imperialism to be more competent. Compare that with a Communist critique which is against NATO expansion, which recognizes the NED's role in funding right wing extremism in Ukraine for decades, which understands that the Neo-Nazi Banderites used Euromaidan as a Trojan horse to coup the Yanukovich government, which understands that America is trying to balkanize and isolate countries that have a history of socialism, even if that history is long over.
Some people childishly see Communists and Conservatives coming to similar conclusions, but for different reasons, and moving from opposite directions. They are unable to do vector calculus on our political positions. All they see is two people occupying the same point on the graph. They don't see what direction they're moving towards, where they came from, or any other nuance, and they conclude "these people are allied with each other because they agree on this one thing."
repost in c/effort (much smaller comm) so it doesn't get buried?
my only critique is that I would re-order these a little for more impact. Here's the order that I personally think would create the most impact: 7, 3, 6, 5, 8, 10, 9, 4, 2, 1.
he releases like one video a year, it's his schtick to make super long documentaries instead of shorts. personally I don't care for that style either. Brevity is the soul of wit, etc
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