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i simply take everything correct he says, put it in my pocket, and then throw the man himself in the trash can.

that's dialectics, baby

the whine-o-condria is the cowerhouse of the incel

so I'm going to preempt it by yelling "satire" and if you agree with the points I made which reflect my actual beliefs, cool, but if not then I was only joking and you didn't get the joke and the joke went over your head.

I call that schrodinger's joke

gotcha, my bad

As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a tiny corncob

I see the point but I would point out that homeless people in the USA aren't in general bound by any shared ethnic identity, geographic origin, culture, or body of languages that makes them an outgroup the way Roma in Europe are. I don't see them as perfectly analogous at all. There's even a world Romani congress whereas there is no such organization for homeless people. homeless people might tend to be from certain marginalized groups more often than not, but they aren't inherently from any one group. Hope I make sense. Not trying to minimize anyone's victimization here, just drawing a distinction.

Mel Gibson. I hate him because he's a Christofascist antisemitic piece of shit but he also, in my opinion is a good director (and a mediocre actor). If his some of his movies (Apocalypto, Passion of the Christ) weren't so thoroughly reactionary in their underlying politics, I would happily recommend them to people.

Sounds pretty much like the current state of the far right here in the US.

Thank you, this was very helpful.

You're welcome. Not just the US right, but elsewhere as well. You tons of fascist movements like this. You have Hindutva in India, Rusich in Russia, Banderites in Ukraine, Bolsonaroists in Brazil, Taliban in Afghanistan, Dutertists in the Philippines, etc. etc. etc. I won't make an exhaustive list of fascist movements or fascist-lite movements in every country. You get my point. Umberto Eco has a list of warning signs of fascism. Engels also, in my opinion, predicted the whole thing of fascism masquerading as Socialism in "Principles of Communism" way back in the 1840s, before fascism was ever a thing:

Engels is talking about restoring feudalism and patriarchy here, which isn't quite what fascists want, but they do "conclude from the evils of existing society" that the past must be restored through purifying violence, whether or not that is actually possible or practical.

in terms of developmental stages as laid out by marx, socialism is the lower stage of communism, after a revolution has happened and the workers control the means of production, during the class-dictatorship of the proletariat, before the state has withered away. During this phrase there are necessarily some trappings of the old society.

But that's the developmental context of the word socialist. The word socialist has many other contexts, some good, some bad. The nazis called themselves "national socialists" but Marxist-Leninists and Democratic socialists don't consider them such, viewing them as fascism masquerading as socialism (something fascism is incidentally very good at, since it capitalizes on the fury of downwardly mobile petit-bourgeois by channeling their anger against scapegoats instead of capitalism, i.e. channeling their potentially revolutionary energy into counter-revolutionary energy.)

The original sense of the word "socialist" which predates Marx and Engels was Utopian Socialism, which was born out of the European enlightenment. It was an idealist, non-materialist tradition of viewing that a vaguely defined Socialism (the end of class exploitation) would come about purely out of the development of technology, and/or the altruism of the capitalist, and/or people simply convincing others that it was the right system through civil debate. This utopian socialism came from people like Owen (a capitalist who tried to be nicer to his workers than other capitalists) and Fourier, but further developed through people like Lassalle in the Gotha programme, which Marx criticized. Marx and Engels took Utopian Socialism and made it "scientific" (in the 19th century sense of the word) by arming it with the economic critique of capital, synthesizing it with historical materialism, and emphasizing the need for the proletariat to become class conscious, militant, and organized, and banishing the illusions that socialism would simply come about peacefully through reasoned debate or reformist transition.

getting rid of exploitation is not the same as making everyone exploited, no matter how hard you want to pretend it is. Taking the whip out of a slave driver's hand is not the same as making him a slave. At least that's what it would seem like you're implying based on the context of this conversation.

wow he spends some of his free time gaming? that must mean that he's WORKING EVEN HARDER to make those billions in the time he isn't spending gaming. So he's not just making 84684684168146814 dollars per second he draws breath through sheer hard work, he's actually making 18146841941984984984928942928429494982928 dollars per microsecond instead, once you subtract all the gaming where he's not working

People who say that only get their knowledge of that country from Kpop and Kdramas.

reactionary industries which are hubs of human trafficking and SA btw. great place to get your knowledge and respect for a whole country from