TWeaK

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And I'm certain your tweet won't be rated in any way that limits its visibility to others...

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, I intentionally gave examples that were open. Some black people take offense to that label, others take offense to "African American", or whatever. People take offense to all sorts of things. In the words of Stephen Fry, "So fucking what? It's just a whine.”

The point isn't really wether it's a correct term or not but ignoring the wish to not be called that and instead doing so with the intention to insult.

The term is not inherently an insult, though. You would have to alter it (eg "cissy") for it to reasonably be considered an insult by default. Merely objecting to a term that any reasonable person would see as accurate and not an insult is not enough - it would just be a whine. If it was used further after an objection, then maybe intent could be proven, but that's not what Musk is talking about here. He's banning the term altogether and saying it is inherently insulting, when it is not.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We're talking about a hypothetical example. What I'm saying it is only comparable to a cis person objecting to being called cis if your example is a trans person objecting to being called trans. Both would be wrong as they are factually correct technical terms, and thus they aren't being used as slurs.

A closeted trans person would be offended that you outed them, not that you called them trans when they are. Although, if they were closeted then you'd probably have no reason to think they were trans.

Calling someone "cissy" is almost certainly meant as an insult, though, because that's not the technical term. That's like calling a gay person a fag, or calling a black person the n word. Calling a cis gendered person cis or cisgender is like calling a gay person gay.

Rejecting a label isn't really valid when the label applies to you. You can't eat pizza and then claim you're not a pizza eater.

And, at the end of the day, the measure that matters is not whether or not you like it, it's actual harm. Calling someone cis is very unlikely to cause them harm. Calling someone a fag could lead to harm (eg Top Gear people driving through Alabama with gay writing on their trucks).

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Still unlikely to develop human to human transmission this way.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think he's always been a bit of an asshole, but he's a charming asshole and sometimes the things he says are on point. Other times he's just being an asshole though, but I still find that entertaining for the most part.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

But the person isn't trans and being called cis, or even trans but objecting to being called trans, they're cis and objecting to being called cis.

Can you really not imagine how a transgender person would feel when the term CIS is forced upon them from the outside?

That's like saying the term "male" is forced upon men, or the term "human" is forced upon everyone. Cis is the defined technical term, with solid etymological roots.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

It might not be worth challenging them, by the time it gets anywhere the current business will be gone. They always had little to no hope of paying off the $13bn loan Musk saddled the business with, now the business is worth less than the loan. Musk knows this, which is why he's trialling all sorts of dodgy shit on the platform, such as this and also the API charges.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

How much damage did he do? Did the place burn down?

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it a lifestyle thing or a mental health thing?

Bit of both, with a dash of enablers (usually parents).

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not the one you replied to but they're probably talking about Kagi. I crunched the numbers a while back and the higher tiers were kind of hard to make worthwhile, however iirc they simplified the pricing slightly since then.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

and it had not been made aware of its route.

As if that's an excuse, seeing as when people do notify them they end up getting killed.

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