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I’m not sure what you want Israel to do? Ignore the attack?

I want Israel to wield their power and superiority in such a way that takes the moral high ground.

Hamas invaded Israel and killed civilians and ransacked their homes.

Israel invaded Gaza, bombing the city and killing civilians before ransacking their (vacant) homes.

Military action should be focused on military objectives. Neither side is doing that, thus both sides should be derided for their actions in this regard. They behave differently, but both share strikingly similar flaws.

Hamas could end the violence that’s killing Palestinians today. Easily. Just stop hiding behind them and surrender.

Israel are far more capable at ending things right now than Hamas. If Hamas surrendered, Israel could easily come up with some other excuse to keep pressing. If Israel stopped, Hamas would not be in a position to perform another 7 Oct attack. Israel are not defending, they are very clearly on the offensive.

At the end of the day, the real goal here is to expend ordinance and buy more, thus financing the weapons industry. An end won't happen until profit targets are met (assuming the goals don't just get stretched further).

Bibi and Hamas have been working together tightly and deeply ever since. They are the same people.

Ok now I'm drinking your Kool-Aid. However, the one caveat I would make is that it isn't really "Hamas" here, it's Iran, encouraging Hamas. Suffice it to say, there's lots of political puppetry going on in this region.

The vast majority of Palestinians weren't alive for the last Yom Kippur war - 50 years ago to the day of the 7 October holiday. Bibi was alive. It stands to reason that most Palestinians don't even know what happened back then, let alone remembering it, but Bibi absolutely should have expected something on such a key anniversary. Instead, beforehand Bibi stirred shit with all the IDF troops, left weak border security on the day with clear single points of failure, then claimed ignorance when everything hit the fan.

However, him directing war crimes does not absolve the Israel troops who are actually committing war crimes. Both should be punished.

So they can throw a few people under the bus and let the most prolific offenders get away with things?

Apparently there was one Nazi on trial in the UK, he slipped through the net of Ben Ferencz (the man responsible for making what few trials we had happen). He was tried in the UK, sentenced to death, then Winston Churchill himself (who had helped finance his legal defence) had his sentenced commuted to life in prison. His sentence was later reduced down to like 20 years and he was let go free. All of this was allegedly because Churchill hated the Soviets more and really wanted to go to war with Russia immediately after WW2. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the name of this Nazi - I read it in a long article around the time of Ferencz's death, then found a Wikipedia article about the Nazi by name (which may well have been scrubbed, Wikipedia doesn't like articles about individuals and prefers articles about events). However it's an interesting facet of the atrocities that were allowed to go by without facing justice, so long as the victors could profit from them, similar to all the rocket scientists and Japanese medical research that the US acquired.

Both sides aren't Nazis. The Nazis had German-level organisation behind them. Hamas has had significant organisation (at least for 7 Oct) that is for sure, but the level of organisation behind the IDF is far greater and better coordinated.

“It was against the rules of engagement for the IDF," Hecht says.

As if they haven't been encouraging this as normal practice.

No one here is pro-Hamas.

You are pro-terrorism, so long as the terrorists are on "your team".

Are you intentionally pretending to misunderstand to present a false narrative

Throwing mud at people first, accusing them of doing the very thing you always do.

Your narratives are clearly false upon the first reading of them, your only goal is to be inciteful and troll people.

Frankly, all of your comments are in breach of instance rules, from what I can see.

No one was using these clearly unarmed and surrendering hostages as human shields. You cannot use "accidental friendly fire" as an excuse for their murder.

Lmfaoooo you're a complete troll. "It's important to counter false narratives" when every narrative you provide is clearly false.

You are qutie clearly intentionally inciting people, and it isn't really working in your favour here.

According to the IDF, Hamas did not fire a rocket on the hospital. They attributed that to the Islamist Jihadist group - a separate organisation.

Meanwhile, all the "tunnel networks" under Al Shifa hospital, that Israel touted as proof of Hamas using hospitals for military purposes, were in fact basement operating rooms that Israeli contractors built in the 1980's, and so far have not been shown to be connected to any military tunnels.

Israel targets civilians. The vast majority of buildings targeted by Israel since 7 Oct have been "power targets", which, by their own definition, are targets that do not have significant military value but have value in that they can destablise civilian life such that the civilians might put pressure on the government to change.

Israel are literally using violence against civilians to achieve a political goal. That is the very definition of terrorism.

No one can argue that the events of 7 October were not terrorism. Roughly 2,000 people invaded Israel to commit terrorist acts. In response, Israel have committed their own form of terrorism and killed 20,000 people, very few of which were actually members of Hamas.

Your argument is a near perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.