You say it causes no harm to society but they'll argue it causes immense harm to God's plan, or whatever. They can also point to the plummeting birth rates which are now almost below the level to maintain the American system. It's a problem that is being debated amongst the highest members of the house and Congress. Of course the reason isn't abortion and is much more complex and societal and due to uncertainty about the environment and wanting to raise children when the parents are a decade a way from buying a house on two full-time incomes now and how much worse it's going to get for their hypothetical children.

My point is you have to see it through their worldview, and understand how they believe it affects them, now only see it through yours.

Yes, thank you.

Growing up without the Catholic dogma and worldview thrust upon you from birth (and consequently playing a part of every action you ever make {unless you lose your faith}, and many thoughts you think) and trying to use the argument that abortion does NOT equal murder is like arguing with an alien. Because from a personal worldview lense, they absolutely do believe abortion = murder with every fiber of their being. It's not enough to just say "no it's not" or make really any argument that leads to that debate. It even affects the views of many ex-catholics who have religious trauma and have been through extensive therapy for it.

No, to you and I, abortion is not murder. But trying to argue that is equal to them arguing to people like us (I assume) that gay people are not just, existing and normal, and not making a conscious decision to be gay. They think it's due to trauma and all gay people are mentally ill and can be cured. However there's no curing necessary. But they'll argue until they're blue in the face that it is. It's the same level of worldview solidification.

No. They are saying that CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to states where abortion/abortion pills have been outlawed. In other words the citizens of TX voted against abortion on a large scale, and CA is performing 'ideological colonization' by mailing to anyone in TX who does want them, since the majority do not.

Quite a thing for the Catholic church to bring up ideological colonization though... 🗿

Anyone who reads my full comment will understand I'm pro-choice but I understand the need to preface comments like this. Otherwise I'm repeatedly downvoted after a sentence.

So:

I am pro-choice.

I get what you're saying, but unfortunately if you're looking at this through the catholic worldview/lense of thought, the doctrine they were raised to believe is the only right way to live, so it's the same as someone saying to you "citizens who don't want to murder can just... not murder people. Like, that's not that hard. We don't need laws against murdering people though"

Required reading: “The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”

It's okay, I was just making a joke.

I'm getting off on the next stop.

Because of the duty to report?

Oh wow with a name like eye4fraud I never would have guessed they were legitimate and widely used but it looks like you're right.

Check your email addresses at haveibeenpwned.com and it will tell you what was all was leaked. eye4fraud was likely a fraud credentials hosting site that got hacked and leaked, and yours was in there, and it would have come from a previous leak.

We're talking about 13 year olds here, not 30 year olds. I have one. They judge each other based on the absolute dumbest shit. The site they got their Jordans from, how many followers they do/don't have on whatever platform, whether someone's text message bubble shows a certain color.

Don't get me started on the 'shooters' that worship Satan and don't even own a pair of Jordans.

Thankfully mine is aware that none of that stuff matters, and I try to convince them not to get it any thought, and always be friendly to everyone regardless, but they're still heavily judged by their peers for all of that, they feel it and to them societal rejection is still one of the worst emotional pains they've experienced so far, so we still get constant requests to buy this thing or that thing for them because it's what's cool this millisecond.

Kids aren't the brightest, their brains are still developing until they're in their 30s, and the emotional turmoil it takes is still incredibly real to them, regardless how little thought you want to give it.

Just because to you "it's just middle/high school" and "it won't matter to them in 10 years" doesn't negate the tears and heartbreak that are so very raw and real to them, right now.

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