Stoneykins

I think those are supposed to be the ends of a wooden frame sticking through hay?

But that is me trying to guess what they were going for. It looks more like a cookie lol

I agree with and understand a lot of your frustrations, as they are also my frustrations.

But you basically said "I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, so now I will vote for the greater of two evils." Just vote 3rd party or something, and try to not take it personally when people are assholes about elections.

The two party problem as a result of first past the post means that not voting against the party you dislike more can result in a spoiler effect, and reduce the chances of the not-as-bad mainstream party winning the election. But, I reject that that spoiler effect is necessarily as bad as voting directly for the worse candidate, it is mathematically untrue. Many people try to insist they are equivalent to try and motivate voting, but I think it has the opposite effect, making people feel apathetic about the entire voting process.

Under first past the post we cannot be free of the biases of the system that enforces two parties, BUT it is possible to rarely, with a big movement of people, swap a third party with on of the major parties to replace it as a major party. The way I see voting 3rd party in situations like this is like the prisonor's dilemma. People are motivated individually to cast their votes strategically for the major party they prefer by the spoiler effect, but if enough people collectively vote 3rd party then the outcome would be better for everyone. Thus, I cannot agree with or accept people claiming voting third party is unacceptable. It might not be likely to be effective, but it is hopeful and not nearly as misguided as people try to insist it is.

Also, Idk if this even applies to me, I'll probably be using my vote strategically. I just support people's right to vote 3rd party.

I'm so tired of people saying not voting for biden is completely equivalent to voting for trump, but this is stupid.

I hope they post about this post about their post about hexbear's post about their post. Then a real discussion can start.

Yeah and it is crap. The rule needs fuckin banned from school administrators being allowed to use it, it only exists to protect the school from liability at the expense of the safety of children, it is beyond stupid.

Lmao what