My partner, our older GenZ offspring* and I were pretty stunned at the end of that.
I’m trying to think of the last time the franchise had an episode with such a dark ending that was not the first episode in a clear multipart sequence.
This is not cozy Star Trek.
That ship definitely has a late 24th century Sovereign-class look to it.
That third nacelle looks like the full scale Protostar drive.
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They sell online now too. Many of their products are US brands though.
That’s how Sam interpreted it, and it’s why she imitated it / mirrored it back.
But what if it wasn’t pro forma?
Does anyone else have any lingering questions or hypotheses around two nonsequiturs in the episode?
I’m wondering why and how the photonics chose the form for Sam - and whether her form is based on a real person - such as Sisko and Cassidy’s daughter Rebecca.
I’m also really wondering how a photonic being can have a pagh…
These definitely seem like things that might be followed up on later.
This has some value added in terms of contrasting the outcome of DS9 ‘The Visitor’ with Jake’s Prime Timeline outcome.
I like the SFA outcome, and I think it respects what Avery wanted in terms of showing that Sisko was a fantastic Black father who left a legacy of good parenting to future generations.
I was very moved at how Jake was a truly adult version of the youth we saw in DS9 but that he also had the posture and dignity that Avery Brooks brought to Sisko.
Cirroc Lofton really can act and it’s outrageous if he’s not been getting work if he wants it.
If you’ve seen him as himself in his podcast, there’s no doubt about his performance in this episode.
It makes me very much want to see him cast in something else.
Wondering if there’s a minimum wait before retesting and that would put them beyond the time limit.
Or perhaps she’s previously tested failed the test and this was her best result.
Skydance only bought Paramount this past summer after production of SFA season one was well advanced and SNW was largely done seasons four production.
While there is genuine reason for concern regarding future Star Trek, it’s very hard to make the case regarding anything in pre production before 2025.
As if Star Trek wasn’t corporate from the beginning!
Every major difference between the original pilot ‘The Cage’ and the original series / TOS was rooted in corporate priorities.
The bright, primary coloured uniform tunics, bright colourful flashing lights on the bridge and other sets were designed to promote NBC’s ‘Living Color’ television broadcasts.
Kirk was younger, physically more vigorous and less cerebral than Pike, no matter what Roddenberry wanted. Action adventure hero, romancing women, was what the network wanted no matter that Roddenberry wanted Kirk to be a ‘stack of books with legs’ and for Yeoman Rand to be the original third principle character and long term romantic interest.
I’m rather wondering if this kind of advertising targeting GenX middle aged and senior men is an inevitable coda to the 1990s wave of colonic irrigation humour.
We picked up some good deals from the promotion this week.
Wasn’t Roddenberry’s original concept for the Ferengi closer to the Furies in this episode?
They were supposed to have large bat ears and the cannibalism rings a bell too — at least the rumours Picard mentions about the Ferengi in TNG ‘Encounter at Farpoint’ included cannibalism.
While the “capitalists on steroids” concept for the Ferengi doesn’t align with the Furies, I still can’t help thinking that Secret Hideout and the Roddenberry estate haven’t pulled out another old idea and reworked it.
Roddenberry’s concept was reworked in the posthumous Andromeda tv show that combined a few of his ‘trunk’ of concepts that were never greenlit. According to the fandom wiki, Magog in Andromeda were “a savage bloodthirsty species feared throughout the universe...(with) baser instincts to kill other living beings for food, or forcibly infest them with Magog eggs for reproduction.“
This ForgottenTrek page on the Ferengi does mention cannibalism and big ears, but I don’t see the prosthetics sketch with the big bat ears that I am recalling.
Do khaosworks@startrek.website or USSBurritotruck@startrek.website happen to have any other references for the original Ferengi concept at hand?