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on reddit there would only be one

The person you were talking to started the conversation with a screenshot showing 5 subreddits for "Blue Protocol", apparently a MMORPG. Similar examples exist for almost any subject big enough.

The phenomenon exists for all systems where there is no central authority deciding names and categories, which is true for both reddit and lemmy. Individual users can decide to create a new group regardless of existing groups, for a variety of reasons. This naturally leads to some duplicates.

or what I see are kbin users subscribed to technology on beehaw while you quote directly beehaw users?

I think so, yes (though still learning). From my point of view (lemmy.click, just 83 users):

• https://lemmy.click/c/technology@lemmy.ml - 19 subscribers
• https://lemmy.click/c/technology@beehaw.org - 17 subscribers
• https://lemmy.click/c/technology@slrpnk.net - 1 subscriber

I think this shows the number of lemmy.click accounts subscribed to these remote communities.

But when I open the communities in their home instances, I get a different picture:

• https://lemmy.ml/c/technology@lemmy.ml - 15.5k subscribers
• https://beehaw.org/c/technology@beehaw.org - 19.1k subscribers
• https://slrpnk.net/c/technology@slrpnk.net - 370 subscribers

Did you switch to 'Subscribed'?

I also have a couple of subscriptions pending to lemmy.ml communities for a few days now.

We're made from star dust :)

Treibt uns vor euch her mit einem neuen Narrativ. Fangt an, Optimismus auszustrahlen, lebensbejahende Positivbotschaften zu verbreiten und genau das von uns einzufordern.

Was denn jetzt, will er mit einem neuen Narrativ getrieben werden oder will er vorab festlegen, was das Narativ sein soll?

Ihr seid die Jugend, es ist euer Job, mit neuen Ideen gegen das alte System aufzubegehren. Euer Pessimismus ist ein natürlicher Feind neuer Ideen. Wann habt ihr zuletzt etwas Überraschendes, Verrücktes getan? Was sind eure klugen, frischen Gedanken?

Damit kann ich schon mehr anfangen. Tritt ab, mach Platz. Geld, Macht, Reichweite. Nicht persönlich nehmen, ist so'n Generationending.

an instance that’s likely to exclude fairly aggressively, so that’s a consideration for whether you want that to be your home.

Sadly, it's more complicated and far-reaching.

You might also consider if you want to invest in communities hosted on an excluding instance. If they exclude your instance in the future, you will lose access to that community. Everybody should be interested to have communities of common interest outside of excluding instances.

And you might want to consider the reputation of the instance you make your home. If other instances decide to defederate your instance for whatever reason, you lose access to their communities.

So it's not just a decision of which home instance aligns with my goals, but also do my goals align with the instances who host communities which I hold dear, and how is my home instance seen by other instances to prevent problems in the future.

The character creation of most RPGs is less sophisticated and has better graphics. Fascinating and saddening at the same time.

we will end up with 160+ !gaming communities and no way of finding them other than word of mouth or actively checking every single instance

This lacks a good solution yet, that's right. It's less of a problem for people on big instances. People on small instances will often have to discover communities first before they can be found by search.

The next best solution I know is https://lemmy.directory/search (which seems to be down currently). lemmy.directory has the mission to subscribe to all communities in all instances to replicate something like /r/all. So they did the discovery for you, and you can search from their point of view to see what exists. Once found, you can discover it from your home instance in order to subscribe.

AFAIK, it depends on where this community originated in which this conversation happens.

• If it's a beehaw community: lemmy.world users can only talk to other lemmy.world users
• If it's a lemmy.world community: beehaw users can only talk to other beehaw users
• If it is hosted anywhere else: I give up, I cannot make sense of it.

Please notify me if someone knows the answer. I tried to understand it using this great explanation with examples.

I also wonder what would technically happen if beehaw users could not see comments from defederated instances in other instances. How would they see a back and forth? Would they see the same level of indentation? Would they see other users from federated instances replying to comments which do not exist?

On reddit you could get banned from many subs for posting in a sub that its moderators didn’t like. And in the fediverse it’s exactly the same. So what’s the point? I’m here, because I hoped that it won’t be like reddit.

That's not what caused the migration of the past two weeks. What you described was a thing all the time, yet something different and special seemed to have happened, which caused me, you and many others to move right now.

That special event was a small group of people deciding for the whole platform. This cannot happen here. Instance admins can decide for their own instance, and that's it. The other instances can make other decisions and no lemmy has to change platform (but maybe instance).

Why would the Beehaw admins make Beehaw a Lemmy instance? Would it not be easier to achieve what they want through an old-style bulletin board or literally any other forum software?

https://the-federation.info/node/details/25274

The instance existed for about 2 years with less than 100 active users in the rolling last 6 months. That's not a blip, seemed to have worked for them, for whatever reasons. Maybe they made a lemmy instance because they could? Nothing wrong with that. Maybe they enjoyed cooperating with other instances, but within limits which they felt were crossed now.

The good thing is, we don't need to agree how instances should or shouldn't be run, for what purpose, for what reason.

**Thank you **for the excellent and detailed explanation in both post and this comment! This helped me so much to better understand how lemmy works and what the implications can be. It is especially useful and interesting to see it demonstrated on a current example, although that's a sad circumstance.

I have only one last question. What happens if they ever decide to re-federate? How will these desynced threads merge? Will votes merge? Will users know content is merged or will that be another cause for confusion?

Post saved, great resource. :)