SpookyGenderCommunist

Imma tell my kids this was Paul Atreidies

Dune is like if Baron Trump went to Gaza, Joined HAMAS, crushed Israel, then killed Joe Biden, and made himself god-emperor of the entire world.

That "one issue disagreement" is concealing a fucking genocide. How can people post this, and genuinely think that bombing Gaza to dust is just an UwU Smol Bean disagreement?!

I'm curious what do you think a Hexbear TikTok presence would look like?

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Plenty of DB0 users are cool and based, I love pirating media and I'm too lazy to make yet another Lemmy account, and when a Db0 lib does wander in, I wanna sharpen my dunking skills.

To be fair, I've also seen a ton of work being done with these encampments by SDS and FRSO, not as much PSL, but they're definitely there too.

not a lot of rappers are talking about Fred Hampton at all.

Boots Riley has entered the chat

nobody in the PSL identifies as Marcyite, its not really a thing.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, Marcyite isn't a ruptural tendency in the way that ML or Maoism are. And the people in PSL and even WWP, are basically ML. I did say that the Marcyite trend reinvented ML in my initial post.

But just to say an ideological trend only exists if people identify as such, is idealist. Various forms of revisionism, right or left deviations, or even just banal differences of opinion all exist within ML.

ML isn't a monolith, and we need to be able to trace where these trends within ML as a tendency come from, to hopefully avoid making tactical mistakes.

Dialectically, there are two general kinds of formulations, "Two Into One," which is the standard "Thesis, antithesis, synthesis" model that serves as most people's introduction to the concept.

And "One Into Two", wherein internal contradictions lead to a fracturing. For instance, a singular species which had divergent evolutionary branches. I.e.Humans and other apes sharing a common ancestor.

While these two formations themselves dialectically interact, the one we give primacy in our analysis shapes how we come to view all kinds of things.

Social Democrats like Eduard Bernstein took a "Two into One" approach top class struggle, which led him to erroneously conclude that the interests of the Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat could be reconciled through reforms.

Why is this important with the Marcyite tendency? The primary way that the Marcyite tendency arrived at reinventing the wheel of ML is through the theory of "Global Class Struggle" that Sam Marcy, and others in his wing of the SWP arrived at, which I described in my initial comment.

That Global Class Struggle Theory also asserts that, since AES aren't technically socialist, and in a post cold war period, are allying with anti imperialist States, like Iran, they view this formulation of Global Class Struggle as a Two into One formulation, where various anti imperialist States are forming a unified bloc against the west.

In many ways, this is correct, but by viewing this solely as a Two into One formulation, the Marcyite trend sometimes ends up papering over the internal contradictions within this loose bloc. So you get weird offshoots like Caleb Maupin and his ilk trying to claim that Iran is Communist simply because it's anti-imperialist.

Or that achieving Multi-polarity is the same thing as achieving global socialism. Rather than as what it actually is, which is an opening and opportunity for more socialist States (but also other competing projects) to be founded without starting down US hegemony.

This isn't inherent to all people or orgs that come from this Marcyite trend, and plenty of them are very dedicated and principled MLs, but it's worth keeping an eye on, because it does crop up.

So while I brought up the Marcyite trend history as a historical footnote that I happen to find personally interesting, it is genuinely important that we be able to sit down and think through these things fully, rather than just throwing up our hands and papering over the line struggles and trends within our movement, because "well we're all just MLs, so its fine".

FFS why not just be ML and skip the pointless gymnastics?

For all intents and purposes, they basically are MLs, as others responding to my comment have pointed out.

They just ended up reinventing the wheel, through a really weird, round-about way, that I find interesting.

Very cool!

Though if I may put on my theory nerd hat, PSL aren't exactly Marxist-Leninists. They're Marcyites, who are trots that accidentally reinvented ML, through Trot talking points.

So, for example, Sam Marcy split from the Socialist Workers Party to form the Workers World Party, and argued that Actually Existing Socialism's were "removedd workers states, like Trotsky asserted, but that this was a necessary stage they all had to pass through, by virtue of having to survive on a planet dominated by Capitalism.

Therefore, the Marcyites support AES, instead of opposing it, like other Trots do.

Also, the beloved children's novel, Heidi, is literally right fucking there

All the more reason why I don't understand why we're digging up this dead horse to beat it more. Who cares?

I expect more refined dunking from my fellow hexbears