SpaceCowboy

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who? If you could even just point to someone describing how this would work, that would be helpful. But I've never seen anyone actually explain how this would actually work. The only one state solutions offered is Netanyahu wanting to annex territories or nutjobs that want to ethnically cleanse (or worse) Jews from the region.

Just look at the population numbers... A one state solution would have Jewish majority. Do pro-Palestinian radicals really want a one state solution with Palestinians being a minority in a state that's majority is Jewish? There's a lot of dark intentions of those that want a one state solution. Or they just don't know what they're talking about.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Terrible analogy. You have permission to read books in a library.

Forgetting to lock your door isn't granting permission to people enter your house, and it doesn't grant people permission to take your valuables. It may be neglectful to leave your door unlocked, but it doesn't imply granting permission to enter your house.

Same goes with computer security. Leaving your computer insecure may be neglectful, but it does not imply someone has permission to take your data.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Jews would still be a majority in a one state solution. What's the term for changing an area from occupied territory to be part of a country where the people are citizens? Annexation.

That's why the whole "apartheid state" thing is a silly slogan used by people who don't actually understand anything. Netanyahu wants to annex the West Bank and it seems the "apartheid state" crowd agrees that this is the best solution. But I don't think they really do agree with Netanyahu, it's just non-serious people spewing non-sense slogans. They don't understand what the word annexation means and don't care that Palestinians might want their own state apart from Israel.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Yeah, if I leave my house door wide open for a few weeks and I get robbed, it's still burglary.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 days ago

She's a convicted child sex trafficker, but I'm sure telling a lie is a line she just wouldn't cross!

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago

Yes, and insulting people instead of responding to what they said is the height of maturity.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are called colonists because in your information bubble that's the worst thing anyone could ever be. If you were terming the settlers in the West Bank to be colonizers, sure I could understand that.

But I think you mean all Israelis are colonizers (even those who are just living where they were born) as a way to dehumanize Israelis and to rationalize the ethnic cleansing of Jews.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (5 children)

"Supporting a two-state solution" is not the same as recognizing Palestine.

Recognizing Palestine is a symbolic gesture at the moment since there's no Palestinian government that controls both the West Bank and Gaza. Generally when countries do this, the recognize the PA as the government of Palestine, but that implies that Gaza isn't part of Palestine (which nobody really thinks) and the West Bank is under occupation, so what does that even mean? I

Recognition of Palestine is just a way to protest Israel and/or the US, nothing more. It's a symbolic act, not a meaningful change in anything on the ground.

What Carney said is more sensible. Everyone reasonable wants a two-state solution, strangely it's only Netanyahu and radical pro-Palestinian groups that want a one state solution. They only differ on which ethnic group should control that one state.

Even then it's premature to talk about a long term peace before there's a ceasefire, but this is mostly about putting pressure on Israel to bring in more humanitarian aid because the US isn't doing that anymore.

Not sure what this conference will accomplish though... is any country going to commit ground troops to Gaza? We all want more humanitarian aid (and eventually a stable peaceful government) in Gaza, but how do you actually make that happen?

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