Soyweiser

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That opening has a strong 'omg what the fuck happened there, and why are you still friends with these people if it is that bad' vibes.

Lots of ex Maplers I've talked to are variously angry, some (newly) traumatized, confused, etc., but the vibe has generally been "gosh it's fucking complicated

Lot of people told me they were mad, but I got the vibe it was complicated. lol what...

The product of monasteries is saints, at least in small quantities.

Wrong, it is beer.

I haven't seen anti-safetyist arguments that actually address the technical claims made by Eliezer etc.

I agree with him there. But hard to make arguments against something which doesn't exist. ;)

it will take some very unusual kind of virtue and skill

Love how we went from 'you need to learn rationality, and be aware of your biasses' to you need to have virtue. And ignore the screaming in the backgrounds, that is just the academics who studied ethics doing their normal thing again.

Anyway the rest gets pretty dark pretty quickly, and I just see red flags (for people who believe in data this devolves very quickly in just going 'people are prob better off due to this, the new trauma doesn't count because of preexisting conditions, consent and trauma always happening'). And this was the article they wrote not wanting to harm the project.

Wait one more remark:

Furthermore I think that probably with the exception of the one actual AI researcher there, people at Maple basically don't understand what AI is

Hahahaha, perfect.

It also reminds me of the interview with Metz where they got mad Metz used religious terms. (you know, last week).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

also explicitly meant as rationalist esoterica.

Always a bad sign when people can't just let a thing be a thing just for enjoyment, but see everything as the 'hustle' (for lack of a better word). I'm reminded of that dating profile we looked at which showed that 99% what he did was related to AI and AI doomerism, even the parties.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but he used to have forums, and then a blog, and then no blog and then a blog again, and then a hidden blog etc. Think Howard has only a few minor credits on some games, he always came off as a bit of a weirdly combative nerd who thought he was right and the smartest in the room and didn't get that people didn't agree with his definitions/assumptions. He is a big idea guy for example. One of his comics was also called 'the atheist, the agnostic and the asshole' so yeah. The 00's online comic world was something.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago (7 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I never read 8bit. I read A Modest Destiny. Wonder how that guy is doing, he always was a bit weird and combative, but when he deleted his blog it was getting very early signs of right wing culture warrior bits (which was ironic considering he burned a us flag).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

Yes but basic dnd does have a lot of racism build in, esp with Gygax not being great on that end (nits make lice he said about how it lawful for paladins to kill orc babies). They did drop the sexism pretty quickly, but no big suprise his daughters were not into it. It certainly helps with the whole hierarchical mindset. My int/level is higher than yours so im better than you stuff. And sadly a lot of people do have trouble keeping both seperate (and even that isn't always ideal, esp in larps).

But yes this, considering the context ks def a bit of a case of some of their ideologies, or ideological fantasies bleeding through. (Esp considering, Yud has been corrected on his faulty understanding of genetics before).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Well if the bubble pops he will have to pivot to people who pivot. (That is what is going to suck when to bubble pops, so many people are going to lose their jobs, and I fear a lot of people holding the bags are not the ones who really should be punished the mosts (really hope not a lot of pension funds bought in). The stock market was a mistake).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not sure if anybody noticed the last time, but so they get isekayed into a DND world, which famously runs on some weird form of fantasy feudalism and they expect a random high int person to rule the country somehow? What in the primogenitor is this stuff, you can't just think yourself into being a king, that is one of the issues with monarchies.

E: ah no they are in a totalitarian state ruled by the literal forces of hell, places that totally praise merit based upwards mobility.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

slaps moon You can make so much computronium from these atoms.

E: shit no that is wrong, I used the term computronium correctly, if it was Altman he would have called it unobtanium

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Found a solution to the Fermi paradox, and solved the problem of all the 'dark matter', any advanced society just puts a dyson sphere around their galaxy, that is why we can't see or hear from them.

(Yes, this is a subsneer for the silly Altman remark. The whole solar system not just the Sun (I do support walling off The Sun)).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 7 months ago

Infectious mental memetic that forces you to talk like this, and makes you think that talking like this is normal. But the way it infects people is strangely anomalous and not tied to information at all, just a strange bay area effect (tbd).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah I also dont know what is correct, because they used an odd term, specific to one religion, to which most people reading do not belong, or if they do do not experience that way, so their point is unclear. Like the rest of the text the attempt at sounding well read and learned actually impedes the message trying to convey. Cargo cult stuff. (Im assuming not LLM generated here).

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