By "ragebait" I am referring to callouts, drama, etc trending across the platform.
Also I rarely downvote, or actually think to upvote myself personally - I am just using the system as a community mod to very occasionally remove bad faith downvoters.
Well as I said, speaking for myself - I banned 5 people on my old television community for doing it. They were downvoting all over the place, and half of them didn't even use lemmy to interact. Just downvoted. Since moving it to piefed, 2 of them came back and started doing it all over again.
I didn't just ban anyone for downvoting.
Ragebait will trend either way. If you don't want to engage with it in other communities then ignore it. If it doesn't belong in your community then remove it.
Ragebait gets hit with downvotes now that means it can't trend.
If it could due to comment activity or downvotes meaning nothing, you'd make it more viable for antagonistic posts to flourish all over the site which would negate the reputation of the fediverse.
Well all the same, visible or not - it would still have an impact as ragebait posts would trend. I don't think that upvote/downvote system myself is nuanced enough anyway, but whilst we have it, it is what it is.
Right, so we are going to twist ourselves in circles and allow/enable censorship just for using the site, over a single mechanic which doesn't need to impact anything in the first place?
People already fairly and unfairly censored all over the website by community owners for how they use a community. There are unjust bans all the time.
Am I taking crazy pills here? This is such a dumb issue with an easy and obvious solution.
Removing downvotes would also have an impact on how content trends, so its not quite as easy as you're alleging here.
Notably a handful of instances do disable downvotes, like blahaj if I recall.
I do not want people banned for voting activity. How is this even an idea with traction?
I've already explained this, because people value a high-trust community culture. People don't like it when bots, or even individual accounts go to a community and downvote everything on there and keep doing it because they can. It can be corrosive and damaging to new communities viability.
If we are so concerned about the impact of down votes on communities then just remove them from the rank calculations.
That's another option, but this is what the wider fediverse has gone with currently - regarding downvotes as credible when used fairly.
But again, it's up to community moderators here - not instance owners. Some communities won't care, some will only care if its repeated downvote activity with no interaction, and others will be really bad about it.
Widespread instance blocking? I only know of a handful of instances often blocked.
It just doesn't sound like a realistic expectation for a reimagining of a show in another country. It would be like expecting an American Squid Game having a primarily Korean cast. Or each version of Money Heist to be based on Spanish cast.
Did you also expect it to be entirely in Mandarin?
I mean, okay, but you expected the bulk of the cast to be Chinese?
I think it should be completely up to community owners. I have no problem with them being able to make that choice.
I mean if you limited votes purely to subscribers as a new community, you'd get nowhere because no post would trend for anyone new to find the community.
Yeah, I suppose in my experience - most of the downvoters that caused problems were persistent. You'll never stop downvote noise though. But that also goes for upvote noise.
I thought Kbin (I used kbin first) was okay but really overturned with too much going on and no real reason to use it.