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I'm not sure what internal security means, the kind of security I'm thinking about is communal - the people tasked with keeping the group safe, be it during direct action, a stay in a safe house, living daily life in a squat or other community on the outskirts of society, all of it, and in my mind they are armed with firearms to oppose outside threats like cops and out of uniform fascists.

the most serious thing they should have is the aforementioned pepper spray and baton, along with a very loud whistle

This falls under self defence in my eyes, which is why I made the differentiation in the first reply, but now I think we've both clarified, and I agree were generally on the same page - those means (pepper spray, baton, whistle), along with a buddy system to keep each other in check seems perfectly reasonable and would be less restrictive as to who could safely be tasked with the job.

Still something we always should be keeping in mind, who we give power to, and who we might be taking power away from by doing so.

Imagine framing prioritising and looking out for the safety of the already marginalised members of your group as a "purity test" bogeyman to justify rejecting learning about intersectionality, in an anarchist community.

Yeah, you definitely shouldn't be allowed do security, jfc

Also, talk about edgelord... Project much? lmfao

E: the sheer audacity to invoke Rojova of all groups to make your point against intersectionality goes to show just how motherfucking and wilfully ignorant you truly are lmmfao, but you keep opposing educating yourself, it seems to be working out really well for you.. 🙄

I think the key point for me is that the needs and safety of the more marginalised people in a group should always be prioritised over anything else, which is not the same as expecting all risk to be eliminated, but otherwise we're just maintaining harmful structures, in which case, what's the point?

If you'd made this comment in a vacuum, I'd generally agree, but as it relates to this post, I don't.

To some degree, everyone should have a mind to physical defense,

For starters, we're talking about security, not self defence. So while yes, everyone who is able should learn some degree of self defence, not everyone can, or should not only be armed, but be given the power over others that comes with being armed.

Rotate individuals

A rotation doesn't solve the problem of violent and or power hungry misogynists (or racists, or queerphobes or so on, all of which exist on the left just like they do everywhere else in society) having a weapon and the power that comes with it.

Not everyone should be given a weapon, it's as simple as that, and putting other members of the group at risk for the sake of superficial inclusion (read: soothing the fragile egos of power hungry people who refuse to even acknowledge their privilege, let alone check it) is not the solution.

I’d much prefer to defend our trans community, but...

Jfc...

Says the person who has clearly never even tried listening to trans people, but is more than happy to believe every piece of misinformation they hear about us then demand we labour for them to disprove it to their satisfaction, over the people they claim they wold actually "prefer" to defend, but aren't...

Your misogyny isn't some enlightened understanding.

I don’t think the left, even now, has realized what liberalism truly is

Lmfao, new to leftist spaces are you? 😂

Imagine turning "here, read this book" in to a "re-education" bogeyman to justify rejecting learning about intersectionality, in an anarchist community.

You definitely shouldn't be allowed to work security.

And thus, the mere suggestion has done its job.

Musk is already openly interfering and backing the afd on behalf of the new government he's taken over (E: never mind zuck and whatever Cambridge Analytica bullshit he wants to pull again with meta, as well as plenty other American media owners and capitalists, without a doubt), wtf are you talking about?

I don't do it often because I value my time and remaining sanity, but I can't deny it's extremely satisfying to watch a troll squirm like that then self destruct when they finally realise you can see right through them lmfao

a woman they don’t want to sleep with,

Sadly this isn't always the case, there's often a deeply incestuous vibe (and sometimes more than that) to that kind of ownership some men take of their daughters (I don't really feel like looking through the results for this search right now, but I remember several images of men wearing t shirts saying shit like "the only one who gets to touch my daughter is me" and creepy shit like that).

There are so many different layers of fucked up to a relationship between a misogynistic man and his daughter., it really is so unfortunate, but it's just one more way in which the patriarchy maintains itself.

In my experience that doesn't usually happen, instead they simply see the daughter as another piece of property theirs to control (which is often framed as "protect"), and draw validation of their (toxic) masculinity from (making themselves feel like "big men" by threatening to harm any guy who comes near her for example).