Saeculum

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[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We don't live in nature. We literally live in a human society.

Human society exists entirely within nature. There's not some diving line where this place over here is natural and this place over there is unnatural. We decide what rights we have to what, because we decided that rights should exist.

And what happens when this intervention causes new unforeseen consequences? How many disruptions until we leave well enough alone?

There is no leaving well enough alone, unless you are content to watch it decline into deserts and polluted wastelands. Every action has consequences, and since we have already acted, the state of nature is the consequence of our action whether or not we continue to intervene.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (27 children)

There are no natural systems untouched by human actions, and there is no way to separate the consequences of a changing environment like extinction from human activity.

Conservation is a movement to preserve the natural systems that were here before industrialisation, and are here now, not to "let nature run it's course*.

what right do humans have to intervene in this?

There are no rights in nature, rights are a part of the fabric of society. We want to conserve nature and so we will.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

New computing has entered the territory where how it all physically works is genuinely difficult to understand, and the parts are mostly just silent and impenetrable chunks of silicon and wires performing what is basically magic.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

even though I just saw you're from TERF-Island lol

Yeah, unfortunately lol.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

it tastes pretty good

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I've met plenty of Spanish people who seemingly can't comprehend that chicken isn't vegetarian.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never felt fear for my life like I have when driving in Italy, whereas France is only occasionally a little scary, so that's one thing.

Saying Italy is prettier is something I would contest as well, they both have stunning sections of the Alps and rolling Mediterranean countryside, it's not easy to tell where Italy starts and France ends without the signposts.

Italian food I think is a little nicer, but it's a close contest and French Vs Italian wine I would say goes the other way.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Ridiculous, how does killing a guy negatively effect your ability to do plumbing?

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Ah, but did you not know, England is God's own country, And did those feet in ancient time. walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God. on England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine. shine forth upon our clouded hills?

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The Lords these days are mostly retired career politicians a few scientists, civil servants and what have you. There are ninety something actual hereditary aristocrats in there, making up about 10% of the chamber, but they don't generally show up. There are also 26 Lords spiritual, all Church of England Bishops, but they don't show up very often either. In fact general attendance is less than 50% and you have a fair number of lords who don't bother to show up beyond the bare minimum they need to keep their seat which IIRC, is one day a year. (They don't get paid on days they don't show up).

The whole thing is of course very silly, and hopefully we can get rid of at least the bishops and aristos in the next couple of years, but their only real power is delaying bills by a year, and they do often propose sensible amendments, so despite being ridiculous, there's no real pressure to get rid of them.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While it is a bit of a silly concept, the conventions have mostly worked for two hundred years, which is hardly fragile.

I've met one or two experts on British constitutional law, and their opinion was essentially that unless the action is overwhelmingly popular, the Monarch deciding to stop following convention would be the end of the monarchy.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if you live by the most accident prone major airport in the world, a plane crashing into your house or hitting you is far far down the list of probable dangers to your personal wellbeing.

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