Are they also pronounced the same‽
Robaque
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If my rooster was a chicken it would lay eggs
Ok, I looked into it a bit more and stand partially corrected, I guess you technically could be a "liberal anti-capitalist" depending on the definition used, but still, I think that's precisely why semantics is important. If you're going for such a particular definition then you'd do good to specify it. At least mention an author or smthn.
If anything, bickering would arise from misunderstanding. E.G. even though libertarianism is through and through leftist, (personally) I always clarify that I'm not referring to the self-contradictory thing that is "right libertarianism".
Nah, semantics is important, without it it would be impossible to properly communicate complex ideas.
Liberalism and (left) libertarianism are very distinct, and seeing that freedom and equality are important to you, I think it would do you good to learn more about the latter. Particularly libertarian socialism, and anarchism :)
Mate it sounds like you've got some nice ideals but are mixing them up with the wrong terminology.
What you described is personal property, not private property.
The fact that under capitalism, "rights" are bought is precisely why the "freedom" under liberalism is fake.
Also, what do you mean with your rhetorical question example? That it wouldn't happen under liberalism because such heirarchies would be prevented by governmental reform?
dw, happens to me too!
It was definitely satire
Could you link me the wikipedia article / paragraph you're referring to?
The first sentence of the article on Liberalism states:
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.
Private property is a fundamentally capitalist concept.
Also, "consent of the governed" is non-existent in practice. Even without bullshit like gerrymandering, and the efficacy of propaganda, the tyranny of the majority is still a problem.
Maybe you mean (left) libertarianism? Liberalism has never been anti-capitalist.
Right-wingers have appropriated themselves of leftist terminology many times (notably, "right libertarianism", "anarcho capitalism", and "national socialism") but liberalism is already right-aligned as its still fundamentally capitalist despite being superficially progressive - permitting the oppressed the hope for change through reform, and giving every poor sucker the "freedom" to get fucked by the social/economic heirarchies of the status quo. Liberalism is how you get greenwashing and rainbow capitalism.
I wonder if making the colours partially transparent could work as an interesting / fun twist?