If we're fine with resorting to violence to get what we want, we're no better than them
This person doesn't know how Nazism was defeated, and how tens of millions of people in Eastern Europe were saved from genocide by military might.
Riverside
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This is how some of the worst atrocities start
Start? Really? People are being murdered in plain sight without consequences. The governments of the west are collaborating In genocide against Gaza. One in four black men go through jail in the US over their lifetimes. Homelessness is rampant, people are left to die without healthcare, drug abuse skyrockets, people are left unemployed and depressed.
You don't care about "the worst atrocities", the worst atrocities are happening TODAY and you simply don't care because YOU have not been affected so far.
So who is the one deciding who gets taged as oppressor?
The people, democratically, organized in worker councils. Nowadays it's usually old men with wigs deciding who's a criminal, and that's clearly working like shit, we can do better easily.
Do you murder the oppressor's children as well because they benifited from their perents behavior?
No, literally no revolution ever has done this except in politically dangerous situations where keeping royal family members alive means danger of reestablishment of monarchy (e.g. Romanov). You're just doing fake atrocity propaganda for something that literally doesn't happen, and ignoring the millions murdered every single year.
How many times exactly has that happened in history? Revolutions are famously not peaceful. Not that they shouldn't happen, they absolutely should, but the people in power don't just go "oh shucks, guess I'll give it all up!"
Well, energy has always been important policy, and I happen to be a STEM edgelord who knows his stuff
Potayto potahto
Nah, Europe is complicit in genocide in Gaza. There's no "coherency and peace" before 5pm here either.
"Communism is worker council power plus the electrification of the whole country"
-Vladimir Lenin
Hydroelectric power as a premise to industrialization was one of the core pillars of Soviet socialism, you are 100 years late. Also, 93% of solar photovoltaic modules are manufactured in the People's Republic of China.
To me, it's "I don't care about China spying on me, my concern is with the companies belonging to the fascist country with militarized police shooting and kidnapping people, where I happen to live". Can't relate yet cause I live in Spain, but Europe will get there soon too
It’s that they are being subsidized by the Chinese government and Chinese labor markets
Government, sure. Labor markets, eh, quality of life in China is not worse than in the west in many respects.
In any case, I don't disagree, but the obvious solution is to have self-sufficient economies not relying on external markets. The most successful example of this has been the Soviet economy, so I agree that we need protectionism but also centrally and democratically planned socialist economies.
"But I wanted the gays to live in fear, not me!!"
"When you give yourself emergency powers to skip over the democratically elected parliament and raise retirement age against the wishes of everyone"
The Soviets murdered the Romanov family, and afterwards rose life expectancy from 28 to 65, had the fastest industrialization in human history, defeated Nazism, gained universal healthcare and free education to the highest level, eliminated homelessness and abolished unemployment. Europe mostly half-ass copied some of those policies because the capitalists were afraid of a revolution and have to give many concessions to the organized workers of Europe, hence why this progress did not happen simultaneously in the USA, far from Soviet influence.
This is because killing your oppressor while creating worker councils who decide democratically how society should progress is a valid strategy for emancipation. No power vacuum if people take that power.