Prunebutt

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[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Well now i'm confused. If 'labor theory of value isn't objectively true' isn't making an argument about the price of a commodity not being equal to the labor it embodies, I am not sure what you're trying to say by it.

A theory o value doesn't necessarily say anything about price. As you said: "value != price".

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Don't the two correlate?

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (11 children)
[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Sorry, I interpreted it as aggressive. Figuring out tone in text form is hard and all that. Sorry that I wrongly accused you.

Things I didn't get:

A reminder that the labour theory of value is not a marxist concept.

Marx hasn't been explicity brought up yet (at least not in my comment). Only implicitly in the original post. Again: thought you were attacking me and was like "umm... So what?"

When people wave their hands around and say “labor theory of value isn’t objectively true!!”, they’re shadowboxing a ghost.

I thought you meant me, since that was what I was basically saying. 😅

Value != price

Now, that one wasn't even implicitly mentioned.

I hope you don't hold my misunderstanding against me.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Umm... Thanks for that unnecessarily aggressive seeming and a bit incompehensible addendum, I guess?

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I was talking about the theory, not value. Sorry if that didn't come across.

Now that I think about it: isn't value culturally determined in many things? Why are apple products more expensive than other computers with the same specs? Why is a ticket to a Billie Eilish concert more valuable than one to my neighbor's indie rock band?

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Shut up! I'm already watching on Newpipe :p

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (14 children)

You're right. It's one theory. There is however ongoing debate on which theory is "correct".

This vid explains it quite well and with Simpsons clips so the hour of video is bearable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z2LCNAVfMw

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (49 children)

Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not "objectively" true.

What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

The SSD is still soldered to the motherboard.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

It's a bit older, but the other comments kind of convinced me that MS just released a severely underpowered piece of hardware as the "budget option".

Kind of untypical for them, especially considering that the surface devices are supposed to compete with ipads and Windows 11 is supposed to run on these things.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm quite sure they're new. Out of curiosity: Why do the specs make you think it's refurbished? AFAIK, refurbishes don't change the components. ;)

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