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Barricades is an online Les Miserables convention focused on all aspects of Victor Hugo’s Les Misérables and its various adaptations. The third edition of the con will be held 12-14 July 2024. The con is interested in programming ideas about all aspects of Les Misérables — the novel, the musical and other adaptations — as well as on 19th century French history and daily life, Victor Hugo’s life and the Romantic literary world, and all the ways that readers, viewers, and fans interact with the text, from translation to fanfic to cosplay.

The will feature both fanwork and academic work

Panelist/ Programming Information

  • Submissions close:15 March 2024
  • Notification of proposal acceptance: TBD

Ticket/ Registration Information

  • Registration opens: 15 January 2024
  • Registration closes: 10 July 2024

The charity partner for the con in 2024 is Black and Pink

Bradley Jaden is returning to the West End production of Les Miz for two weeks only, from 15 to 27 January 2024.

Jaden is covering for regular Javert Stewart Clarke, who will return to the role on 29 January 2024.

In November it was announced that Killian Donnelly would be returning to Les Miserables to play Jean Valjean, taking over from Josh Piterman who has returned to Australia. Donnelly is expected to play Jean Valjean to February 2024.

Uptown Music Theater of Highland Park, Illinois, will produce Les Miserables from July 26, 2024 through August 11, 2024 at the new performing arts center at Deerfield High School.

Cameron Mackintosh has personally granted an exceptionally rare and special license, based on his desire to help the community continue to heal after the 2022 mass shooting in Highland Park. To further this charitable purpose, the production will financially benefit the Highland Park Shooting Recovery Fund.

(Normally community productions of Les Miz are not permitted in territories where a professional production is playing. The US tour of the Cam Mack production is currently in progress.)

Audition submissions for the Uptown Music Theater production will be accepted through February 9th, with callback invitations to follow.

What's On Stage has produced a short video on what former West End Gavroches are doing now

 

The national union of stage directors and choreographers has reached an agreement with producers on a new four-year pact being called a landmark for some theater workers, the groups announced today.

The Stage Directors and Choreographers Society and The Broadway League, the national trade association for producers in the Broadway and touring industry, said in their announcement that the agreement, which covers directors and choreographers on Broadway and League productions in North America and the British Isles, now includes associate directors and choreographers.

Considered a major agreement for its coverage of associates working on Broadway and companies across North America, the pact provides union protections including health and pension benefit contributions for the associate directors and choreographers.

Additionally, the agreement includes increases in compensation and benefits for covered directors and choreographers; new compensation structures for co-directors and co-choreographers; modified terms for recognized activity in the British Isles; and language codifying the parties’ mutual commitment to non-discrimination and anti-harassment.

The terms for the new contract were ratified by SDC’s Executive Board on December 26, 2023, and went into effect on January 1, 2024.

 

Everything's coming up Audra! Sources say Audra McDonald will be taking on the iconic role of Mama Rose in a revival of Gypsy during the 2024-2025 season.

I saw Audra McDonald in concert in 2022 and she ended Act 1 with "Everything's Coming Up Roses". It was a performance that blew the roof off the house and also blew my mind. I've been telling people ever since that if she ever wanted a seventh (!!!) Tony Award on her mantle, she should play Mama Rose. I mean, just about every performer who plays that role on Broadway wins the Tony anyway (Mama Rose is basically the Hedda Gabler of musical theatre, the role every actress aspires to), but the emotion, technical skill and ferocity with which she navigated that song was eye-watering. Especially since only seconds before she'd been joking about paying for her kids' school fees. I'm really excited that this could become a reality. Hopefully it's more than just a rumour.

 

Kimberly Akimbo, the 2023 Tony Award winner for best musical, will be closing on April 28.

The musical, which also took home four other Tony Awards, has been running at the Booth Theatre on Broadway since October 2022, after making its world premiere at the Atlantic Theater Company Off-Broadway in 2021. The entire original cast from the Off-Broadway run, including Tony Award winners Victoria Clark and Bonnie Milligan, has remained with the show throughout its run and will remain for the final performance.

A national tour is scheduled to follow. BroadwayDirect states it will be a 75-week, 60-city National Tour, starting at at the Denver Center for the Performing Arts this September.

The musical, which features a book by David Lindsay-Abaire and a score by Jeanine Tesori and Lindsay-Abaire, follows Kimberly (played by Clarke), a 16-year-old girl with a rare genetic condition that causes her to age rapidly, as she navigates a complicated family life and tries to fit in amongst her peers. The show was adapted from a 2001 play by Lindsay-Abaire.

In addition to Clarke, the cast features Justin Cooley, Steven Boyer, Alli Mauzey, Bonnie Milligan, Olivia Elease Hardy, Fernell Hogan, Michael Iskander and Nina White.

At the end of its run, Kimberly Akimbo will have played 644 total performances on Broadway, which puts it on similar grounding with 2015 best musical winners Fun Home, which closed after 609 total performances and 2018 winner The Band’s Visit, which closed after 624 total performances. (The 2022 winner, A Strange Loop, had one of the shorter runs for recent winners, with 314 total performances)

Like these shows, Kimberly Akimbo was critically lauded and has seen a largely healthy, though not overwhelming box office performance. The show saw its highest gross, of $736,318 two weeks after the Tony Awards (which took place June 11, 2023) and was able to come close to that, at $720,330, in the recent lucrative holiday week surrounding Christmas and New Year’s Eve. However, the show saw several weeks of lower attendance this fall and winter, hovering in the 70 and 80 percent capacity ranges. Still, with the closing date four months away, the production likely believes it can make it through the tricky winter months on Broadway, bolstered by momentum around the closing announcement.

 

Glynis Johns, who portrayed a singing suffragist in the Disney musical “Mary Poppins” and won a Tony Award in the musical “A Little Night Music,” where she introduced Stephen Sondheim’s standard “Send in the Clowns,” died Jan. 4 at an assisted living home in Los Angeles. She was 100.

New York Times obituary: https://archive.md/TcD9U

Washington Post obituary: https://archive.md/StKQ8

 

Best Musical Tony Winner Fun Home will stream two 10th anniversary reunion concerts January 8. Both the 6:30 PM and 9:30 PM performances will stream live via Stellar with in-person tickets already sold out.

Much of the original cast will be on hand to reprise their performances, including Beth Malone as Alison, Michael Cerveris as Bruce, Judy Kuhn as Helen, and Roberta Colindrez as Joan. Original cast member Joél Pérez will reprise his performance as Roy, Mark, Pete, and Bobby Jeremy at the 9:30 PM performance, with Perry Sherman (who was an understudy on Broadway) handling the 6:30 show. Emily Skeggs, who replaced as Middle Alison during the musical's Off-Broadway run and originated the role for the Broadway bow, will reprise her performance at both concerts.

They will be joined by Colette Goodman as Small Alison, Jasper Burger as Christian, and Lincoln Cohen as John. Composer Jeanine Tesori, lyricist and book writer Lisa Kron, music director Chris Fenwick, and director Sam Gold will also be on hand for the event.

Benefitting LGBTQIA+ non-profit Outright International, the concerts will mark 10 years since the musical finished its world premiere run at the Public Theater.

Based on Alison Bechdel's autobiographical graphic novel of the same name, Fun Home tracks Bechdel's unusual childhood and adolescence as a young gay woman, raised by a troubled and often difficult father who Bechdel later found out was a closeted gay man himself. Following the 2013 world premiere Off-Broadway run, which was extended into January 2014, the musical made the jump to Broadway in 2015, winning five Tony awards including Best Musical. Tesori and Kron's win for their score and book made history as the first time an all-female writing team took both categories.

Tickets for both streaming concerts, being produced by West Fulton Arts, are available at StellarTickets.com.

 

“Smash” is about to take another major step in its march to Broadway.

The cast and crew will gather for six weeks starting this month to mount a fully staged and choreographed workshop, with an orchestra, culminating in five performances for recruited audiences.

The new Susan Stroman-directed musical, inspired by the NBC television series of the same name, is slated for Broadway in the 2024-25 season.

The workshop cast includes Brooks Ashmanskas (“The Prom”), Alex Brightman (“Beetlejuice”), Yvette Nicole Brown (TV’s “Community”), Bella Coppola (“Six”), newcomer Nihar Duvvuri, Casey Garvin (“Some Like it Hot”), Robyn Hurder (“Moulin Rouge”), Kristine Nielsen (“Vayna and Sonia and Masha and Spike”), Krysta Rodriguez (“Into the Woods” Netflix’s) and Jonalyn Saxer (“Back to the Future”).

The full company includes Wendi Bergamini, Giovanni Bonaventura, Jim Borstelmann, Zachary Downer, Tiffany Engen, Ashley Blair Fitzgerald, Megan Kane, Caleb Marshall-Villarreal, Connor McRory, JJ Niemann, Tanairi Sade Vazquez, Brian Shepard, Sarah Sigman, Jake Trammel and Katie Webber.

Marc Shaiman and Scott Wittman, who wrote songs for the series, also handle the score for the “Smash” musical, which will feature tunes from the TV show as well as new material. Book writers are Bob Martin and Rick Elice.

 

Leading West End and Broadway producer Sonia Friedman Productions are developing a new musical based on the much loved Paddington Bear books and films.

The new musical – which has a working title “Paddington: The Musical” has a book by Jessica Swale, music and lyrics by founding member of McFly, Tom Fletcher and will be directed by Luke Sheppard (& Juliet, The Little Big Things).

The plan is to premiere the production in the UK in 2025, with further details including full creative team, casting and dates to be announced at a later stage.

 

Nicole Scherzinger is ready for her close-up. The “X-Factor” judge and Pussycat Dolls singer is bringing her acclaimed interpretation of legendary diva Norma Desmond to Broadway with a new production of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s “Sunset Boulevard.” She’s taking on the fading screen star — a role that was memorably played by the likes of Glenn Close, Betty Buckley and Patti LuPone. That’s intimidating company, but based on the reviews out of London, where this West End production was the toast of the town [I guess I'm not of that town], Scherzinger nailed it. The New York Times praised her “career-defining performance” and The Washington Post called her “the perfect Norma Desmond.”

But that’s not the only thing that impressed critics [I guess I'm not a critic], who also flipped for director Jamie Lloyd’s stripped-down production of Lloyd Webber’s adaptation of the Billy Wilder film. Lloyd was recently in New York with his Tony-nominated revival of “A Doll’s House.” The revival means that Lloyd Webber will be back on Broadway’s marquees after an uncharacteristic absence following the end of “The Phantom of the Opera” and the disastrously received and short-lived “Bad Cinderella.”

The 1994 Broadway production of “Sunset Bouelvard” won the Tony for best musical, but was often overshadowed by off-stage drama, such as a lawsuit between LuPone — shunted aside for Close after appearing in the London version — and Lloyd Webber. It was later revived in minimalist fashion in 2017 with Close reprising her role. The show features book and lyrics by Don Black and Christopher Hampton.

Joining Scherzinger on Broadway will be her London co-stars: Tom Francis as Joe Gillis, the cynical screenwriter who enter’s Desmond’s orbit; Grace Hodgett-Young as Betty Schaefer, the object of Joe’s affections; and Olivier Award-winner David Thaxton as Max Von Mayerling, the loyal butler of Desmond. [I did like Thaxton, who I wouldn't have thought was right for the part, but who surprised me.] Producers said the date for the show’s premiere, as well as the theater it will play and additional casting will be announced shortly.

 

The current Broadway revival of the late Stephen Sondheim’s most notorious flop, 1981’s Merrily We Roll Along, has unquestionably reclaimed the show’s reputation, not only through the rave reviews of critics but by garnering the highest average ticket price of any show this season, with seats ranging up to $600.

With Merrily raking it in at the Hudson Theatre, last year’s acclaimed Sweeney Todd revival going strong at the Lunt-Fontanne, and the composer’s decidedly experimental show, Here We Are, garnering a mixed reception off-Broadway, it’s perhaps worth taking stock of what American musical theater has become in this era where Sondheim is both everywhere and nowhere. While Sondheim’s shows are currently playing all over New York, his influence over the modern musical itself has become somewhat harder to track.

“There’s a half-voiced fear among musical acolytes, understandable in a time in which theater itself is newly under siege,” former New York Times critic Ben Brantley recently wrote, “that on some level Stephen Sondheim represents the end of the line for a once-flourishing art form.” If that sounds dire, it’s because the stakes are high: It’s a common axiom that musicals are one of the few purely American art forms; they evolved within American pop culture to become a global export and one of our most popular, enduring forms of entertainment. But it’s also widely understood in the theater world that for all the composers like Sondheim who helped make the musical what it is, a show like Merrily — with unknown songs, a conceptual plot adapted from a little-known play, and a narrative told in reverse — could never make it to the Great White Way today. That’s because today’s successes tend to be jukebox musicals and shows based on very famous movies you already know.

This doesn’t mean, however, that musicals are doomed to wither on the vine as consumerism pushes us toward ever more derivative, watered-down franchise adaptations stacked with mediocre songs. It’s easy to assume this, and to cling to Sondheim as the last great theater composer. But perhaps there’s a different perspective on the current state of the musical: That it isn’t dying at all, that many potentially worrying aspects that seem unique to the modern landscape are as old as the medium itself, and that the artform is evolving into something new and equally interesting.

The new modern musical is arguably finding its way into a hybrid form that routinely plays with structure and genre expectations, pairs self-aware storytelling and innovative design with traditional crowd-pleasing elements, and deploys the mechanisms of social media and TikTok to bolster audience interactivity and unite shows with their core fanbases. No, it’s not Sondheim — but in a new era of storytelling, we don’t yet know what the next Sondheim will look or sound like.
Broadway shows have always relied on pop hits to drive their success

To understand exactly where we’re headed, it’s helpful to understand that the musical as we know it has been through all this before. First, think of the musical as a sum of its parts. There’s the story — the book or the libretto — and the songs that go along with the story. Regardless of whatever else you put onstage, how well these two elements mesh determines whether you’ve created something coherent.

That might sound like a foregone conclusion, but the history of the form begs to differ. The musical evolved from two totally opposite impulses: vaudeville, which paired popular songs of the day with entertaining skits and short sketches, and operettas, which had dense, sophisticated scores descended from operas. So, in one corner, shows whose songs were random and interchangeable — in the other, shows whose stories couldn’t be told without the music.

In the middle, you had Tin Pan Alley, where many of America’s most famous 20th-century songwriters churned out songs at a feverish pace. In this era, songwriters such as George and Ira Gershwin and Irving Berlin thrived, churning out still-popular hits that helped form the backbone of what’s referred to as the American Songbook. Often, those songs found their way into frothy shows whose plots were negligible and served as little more than marketing for the music — which rarely had anything to do with the story. Florenz Ziegfeld’s Follies, which reigned over the 1920s, was even more vague, delivering conceptually innovative spectacle but functioning primarily as a fashion show with music.

In 1928, however, this started to change, when Ziegfeld produced Jerome Kern’s Showboat, a challenging drama steeped in the influence of operetta and teeming with social issues. Not only was Showboat’s score nearly continuous throughout, but the songs were designed to relay information and insight into the characters. In 1943, Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II further codified these ingredients when they took a holistic approach to their first collaboration. In Oklahoma!, the music, lyrics, and choreography were all utilized to deepen characterization and advance the plot. But, crucially, while Rodgers’s lush score was influenced by operetta, the songs were all bangers. The songs from Oklahoma! were so popular that for the first time in Broadway history, the production made a recording to preserve the original cast, thereby turning the Original Broadway Cast Recording) into an indelible part of the musical theater experience.

For most theater lovers, the original cast recording is an introduction to the show itself, long before they ever get a chance to see it. But while these recordings are a vital marketing tool, it can decontextualize songs from the performance. Thus, ironically, at the same time Rodgers and Hammerstein were nailing home the ingredients for a fully constructed musical, their cast album was instigating the process for its deconstruction.
What even is a Broadway musical anymore? It’s a surprisingly difficult question to answer

Most recent Broadway productions fall into one of two camps. In the first camp, we have musical revues — jukebox musicals — which are loosely plotted vehicles for previously written well-known songs from pop songwriters or performers. Think Jersey Boys, Moulin Rouge, or the recent Britney Spears musical, Once Upon a One More Time.

In the second camp, we have musicals written in the Disney vein, adding songs or other elements to a previously beloved, well-known franchise. Think Mean Girls, Legally Blonde, Back to the Future, or the upcoming musical adaptation of The Notebook.

Excluding revivals, the vast majority of recent Broadway musicals fall into either category, with varying degrees of success. An ever-dwindling third category is what we might think of as the “traditional” American musical — the Hamiltons and Hadestowns, built not around a previously existing juggernaut franchise or pop hitmaker, but around an original idea or story adaptation, with a fully original score.

There are obvious limitations to these categorizations. You can argue, perfectly correctly, that shows built around previously existing franchises are also “traditional” musicals — they tend to have fully or mostly original scores with a two-act plot structure. At the same time, these distinctions have become ever more blurry in a musical landscape where shows have to appeal to the tastes of both tourists and hardcore musical lovers with sophisticated palettes and tremendous fan power. It’s increasingly common for jukebox musicals like Jagged Little Pill and the recent Neil Diamond revue A Beautiful Noise to not only interpolate their pop hits but to deconstruct, interrogate, and recontextualize them. Is that still a revue? Meanwhile, shows based on movies like The Lion King and Matilda are straightforward story adaptations, but feel fresh and transformative based on their musical and theatrical strengths.

Still, there’s a clear distinction between shows that exist to further the art form and those that exist to further expand an existing IP. With the franchise and jukebox musicals dominating Broadway, it feels important to separate the “originals” from the ever-growing crop of shows that seem to fulfill the latter purpose. It’s hard to ignore that many of these latter types of shows are not only derivative but also sloppy and creatively vapid — and that since Broadway reopened, these shows have been turning profits even at their most muddled and cringe, as other, more artistic and innovative shows close up shop early.

Applying the whole Rent sellout debate to a crop of shows that are bringing Times Square back to life nearly four years into a pandemic that debilitated the American theater, however, seems at minimum ill-timed and misguided. It also isn’t entirely accurate to say that only the derivative musicals get all the attention. Of the 10 highest-grossing shows of the last decade, only two, Beautiful — The Carole King Musical and Jersey Boys, were jukebox musicals, and only two, The Lion King and Aladdin, could be said to fit under the “franchise musical” heading. However one feels about the rest of the musicals on the list, no one can say they aren’t innovative. This was a decade that saw a steady effusion of original musicals, from Fun Home and Dear Evan Hansen to Be More Chill, and Something Rotten, many of which found passionate fanbases. And even as Broadway limped along for most of last season, the three shows that recouped post-pandemic — so far including girl-powered history romp Six, the Michael Jackson musical MJ, and the revival of Funny Girl — arguably represented a range of ideas and creative concepts rather than a narrowing of the field.

Still, the idea that Broadway should be about more than just milking cash cows feels noble. It’s hard to let go of the 20th-century dream of an elevated musical form where every song feels inextricably linked to a unique character and story brought to us by consummate songwriters. It’s also hard not to resent the Mean Girls and the & Juliets for robbing the Strange Loops of their chance to find a mass audience.

The dictum that not even Sondheim could become Sondheim in the current environment of American theater is meant to underscore the fact that culturally, we’ve moved past the age of visionary composers driving what gets a Broadway production. The current glut of jukebox/franchise shows make it incredibly difficult for less-known and experimental shows to break through. While everybody still wants to be Sondheim, only a handful of today’s musical composers have the kind of fan following and name recognition that allows them to mount a Broadway show and recoup its investment on the strength of their score. It’s not easy, as Brantley observed for the Times, “to imagine any of them ascending to the unapproachable dominance of their profession that was Mr. Sondheim’s for roughly half a century.” A side factor is that many of them have moved away from the theatrical trenches after recruitment into the Disney fold — a less risky, more lucrative career path, but not one that leads to new shows.
Radcliffe and Groff face each other with animated expressions and Mendez excitedly hits Groff’s back.
Daniel Radcliffe, Jonathan Groff. and Lindsay Mendez at the opening night curtain call of Merrily We Roll Along, October 2023.
Bruce Glikas/WireImage

But this idea — that there will never be another Sondheim to innovate and push the musical forward — also obscures the reality that most of Sondheim’s musicals barely made it to Broadway to begin with. (Merrily only ran for 16 tortured performances.) For most of his career, Sondheim dealt with critical dismissal and audiences who didn’t know what to do with his work. It took decades for many of his shows, with their famously “unsingable” scores, to become the cultural icons that established him not only as one of America’s most important composers, but a pop culture mainstay.

In other words, even Sondheim often persevered despite, not because of, the modes and means of Broadway success. For all we laud “the American musical” as a pure art form, the truth is that Broadway has always been a commercial enterprise, first and foremost, more closely tied to Top 40 pop music than to high art. The Gershwins, Cole Porter, Lerner and Loewe, even Leonard Bernstein — most of the 20th century’s venerated musical composers were primarily hitmakers.

This is a hard pill for many theater lovers to swallow. Musical theater’s relationship to classical music and opera has historically been such an incendiary subject that every few decades someone drops an impassioned rant on the public about it. The ever-present tension between perceptions of “highbrow” and “lowbrow” art means that theater composers and critics frequently wage war over which realm the musical belongs to. It also means that critics have been handwringing that the modern musical is dead for roughly 20 years — no, make that 40 years. The modern musical has allegedly been in its death throes since before many of us were born, and yet somehow these death throes have produced most of Broadway’s longest-running and lucrative shows, from The Phantom of the Opera to Wicked.

The more I consider the era we’re in, the less I’m bothered by the state of things. The current Broadway season already holds promise beyond the remnants of Sondheim: The upcoming jukebox musical Hell’s Kitchen, loosely based on the life of Alicia Keys, promises to unite the standard jukebox biopic with the thematic complexity of Jagged Little Pill. Elton John’s Tammy Faye looks like it will inject a needed amount of satirical froth into the mix. Revivals of Cabaret and The Wiz already feel like they are arriving at exactly the moment we need them most. Meanwhile, audiences continue to return to theaters — and those audiences contain fewer tourists and more locals and a more diverse, young crowd overall. In other words, nature is healing, and it wants to sing show tunes.

 

For those who missed the extended cinema release of Broadway's Waitress, the film of the hit Broadway musical will be available for streaming digitally on-demand beginning January 9. The digital version of the film is currently available to pre-order on Amazon and Apple for $14.99.

 

Take a look at what’s going to be opening in UK locations in 2024, including

  • Blood Brothers
  • Bonnie & Clyde
  • Come From Away
  • Dear Evan Hansen
  • Little Shop of Horrors
  • & Juliet
  • Grease
  • The Book of Mormon
  • A Chorus Line
  • Hairspray
[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

While there have been plenty of movie to stage musical to movie musical adaptations (The upcoming The Color Purple and Mean Girls are two), this would be the first (I think?) movie musical to stage musical to movie musical adaptation.

The current stage musical maintains a lot of the songs used in the original movie (like "Tango Roxanne" and the only original song, "Come What May"), but also adds (snippets of) many more. Luhrmann's statement that "So I can see in 20 years you recalibrating it again with new music." seems to speak to something else again - the idea of doing yet another take on Moulin Rouge (whether on stage or on film) with music drawn from the bigger pool available in another generation or so. Sort of like Disney's idea of revising Fantasia every so often.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

It so happens that I had a discussion with someone about this very issue on the kbin codeberg some months ago, starting with this comment here:

https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/455#issuecomment-977168

But while I've also gone back and forth on the question, I've basically settled on the view that public downvoting encourages _responsible _downvoting, and the risks associated with downvotes being public are exaggerated given how much else of one's activity is public anyway.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
  • For All Mankind season 4 - along with House of the Dragon my favourite show currently in production
  • Downton Abbey New York season 2 - comfort food of sorts, populated with amazing theatre and musical theatre talent
  • New Frasier about the old Frasier Crane - still finding its feet, but it took the old Frasier about the younger Frasier Crane a year or so to do the same
  • Gen V - decent spin off
  • Loki season 2 - satisfying finale
  • The Creator - not as good as I was hoping it would be
[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Have been an admirer of Moffatt's work since Press Gang, so will definitely check this out.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This trailer is definitely a bit more fetch than the previous one.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I'm a younger user of lemmy in the sense that I've only been a Fediverse user for less than a year. 😇

Starcraft (1 and 2). I suck. Suck in the "had trouble finishing the campaign on Normal, couldn't get out of Bronze league" sense of suck.

But I love it. It's my favourite video game, though these days I only watch it rather than play it, for reasons of see above.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is one of the biggest issues and barriers to discoverability with the Fediverse in my opinion.

As I understand it, unless an instance has already subscribed to a community (magazine in kbin parlance), then in order to make that community (magazine) appear in your own instance, you need to:

  • First search for the community (including the community's home instance) name in the magazine search function.
  • The search will come up blank, but the act of searching for it will trigger a backend request for your instance to start federating content from that community. However there's no message to tell you that it's doing that. It just looks like that community doesn't exist.
  • Further, it may take up to several days (in my experience) for federation to start, ie, you have to repeat the search for the community and only then can you subscribe to (follow) that community
  • And when it does start, it only starts grabbing new content. So first it looks like the community doesn't exist, then it takes a long time for content to appear, and then it looks like the community is sparsely populated unless you go back to the community's home instance, rather than staying in your own instance, to catch up on old content.
  • Further pinned posts aren't federated (at least between lemmy and kbin I believe), so you can't even rely on a "here's what you need to know" introductory post to orient new members.

Contrast this to reddit, where (because it's a centralised system) searching for a subreddit produces immediate results, you can join a subreddit immediately, and you can immediately see all current and past content for that subreddit. Much more intuitive and useful to users.

Unfortunately the activitypub protocol that underlies lemmy and kbin doesn't appear to have been designed for reddit-like communities in mind. Ie communities that tend to feature long-form content, posted relatively sporadically, and where having access to the community's archive is very useful to members. It works somewhat better for twitter-like communities where it's easier to jump in "mid-stream" and - because posts tend to be only a few words long - you're more likely to start seeing new content after only a short delay.

I wish that this is something that's addressed at the Fediverse level.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

That Bob Justman memo reminded me how much fun they had making TOS (as well as working long and hard of course). Perhaps my favourite is the memo chain Justman started about Vulcan proper names.

Re fixing mistakes: I guess I don't have a problem with it as long as the mistakes are trivial, are clearly errors, and the original version remains available. What constitutes a "trivial error" of course can be up for debate. Correcting a background audio cue - sure, why not? Changing early TOS references of "Vulcanians" to "Vulcans" - definitely not.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The first instance of "shit" on American network television (ie not HBO etc) that I can recall was on Chicago Hope. I think it was Adam Arkin who was able to say "shit happens" in one episode. There was a bit of publicity about it at the time.

Chicago Hope also managed to show a female breast, sort of. There was an episode where a woman had one of her breasts reconstructed, and they showed the result. I assume it wasn't an actual breast that was aired, but a lifelike replica. Either that, or they got away with showing a real boob by pretending it was a fake one in the story.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks DD - will raise a Codeberg issue in the next day or so (just in the middle of work right now).

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thanks Daredevil. Hmm. While the following search:

https://kbin.social/search?q=broadway+sondheim

does produce my post, the search query seems to act as a logical OR rather than a logical AND. Ie, it returns posts with tag #broadway OR #sondheim. Is there a way of constructing a search with a logical AND?

Further, this search:

https://kbin.social/search?q=broadway+lesmis

should produce any number of posts, but returns nil results.

Eg, this post is tagged with both #broadway AND #lesmis, but does not appear:

https://kbin.social/m/Musicals/t/553845/Have-There-Ever-Been-Two-Productions-of-the-Same-Show

And there are a number of posts tagged with #lesmis: https://kbin.social/tag/lesmis which, one would assume, should also appear in the search results.

So searching for single tag queries seems to work well, but searching for text queries is inconsistent.

Unless... using the search bar ONLY searches the body of the post, rather than also the associated tags? Whereas searching for tags ONLY searches for tags attached to a post, but not the text of the post itself? If so, then it would be great if kbin had the ability to do logical AND searches on tags to help narrow down results.

[–] Prouvaire@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That doesn't work for me though. Entering

https://kbin.social/tag/sondheim broadway

produces zero results. What am I doing wrong?

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