Thanks for the info!
Procapra
joined 1 year ago
I feel similarly. It really stung.
That's good to hear!
A fair point. I would hope that people on a leftist forum wouldn't immediately gun someone down just for being homeless or a drug addict. The context for this post without getting too into detail is that a person in this community got around 4k in donations, and pissed it away. People criticized them for asking for more, then they made an apology post, where plenty of people (including me) still criticized and offered advice. Then the admin made the post with the rule change.
I'm arguing that hard conversations need to happen sometimes, and in that situation, a hard conversation was needed. Obviously people can take things to far, but there is a difference between malice and good criticism, and I'm suggesting that criticism be allowed with situations like this in mind.
I don't have a problem with gofundmes or anything, but I feel like that kinda thing falls into charity and not mutual aid. Still good of course, but different. (which opens up the conversation of if an internet forum can even be effective mutual aid but that's off topic)
I don't have a problem with people asking for money they don't need, lying, using all their money on drugs, idc. I'm just asking that conversations be allowed to happen when they happen. Even if the OP ignores the criticisms entirely, it brings engagement to a persons post, which might potentially get more people interested in supporting them.
I'm not trying to do any of that at all. What do you think I'm advocating for? I think something is lost in translation.
I am not trying to regulate anything
I am saying literally the opposite. Don't regulate what anyone has to say in critique of another person (unless its obviously malicious).
How is it advocating for witch trials? As far as I'm aware this wasn't even perceived as a problem until a 1 off situation. That 1 off situation being highly controversial in this community. I would rather people talk these things over and actively learn from each other, than to blanket ban criticism. Criticism is not inherently malicious, and its not saying "don't send money to this person" (and saying this IS wrong).
This is an online community, it has very little capacity to help, but one of the ways it can help is through conversations. Limiting the type of conversation, limits that capacity further. That is the point I am making.
It's not a matter of entitlement, its a matter of making sure peoples needs are met. That is the entire point of mutual aid. Throwing money at problems indiscriminately is not a solution. If you feel like giving someone money, give someone money. That is not what this post is about.
"This american based website says that this news source is great!"
What in the dystopian hell did I just read?
Communism is when mom brushes my teeth.