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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

But sociology describes ideas, not material properties

This is a fundamentally idealist way of viewing sociology, although most sociology you're exposed to is idealist in nature.

Anyway, my point was that neither a system of government/economy nor pushing ideas are ways of describing the world.

??? What does that have to do with Marxism? I think the disconnect here is that you do not understand what Marxism is, you have only had second and third hand exposure to it.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Marxism, in the common understanding is a scientific theory of social reality

You're talking about "the common understanding" which is ironic in the context of this discussion.

The fact that it is an economic reductionist theory of social reality does not mean it is physics.

I would agree with you if I shared your shallow understanding of the subject. Have you read anything rigorous about dialectic materialism or historical materialism?

Also do you think social reality isn't a material reality? That is a rather odd position to have?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

No, that is specifically idealist activism, not materialist activism. Also sociology is a science that follows similar methodology as "hard" sciences

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

"Science describes some material reality" "science describes some reality"

You put dialectical materialism in the latter category?

Also scientific testing+Marxism and bullshit idealist debates are not in any way similar in methodology

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People who this is targeted at and don't get it when you explain it.

Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn't that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?

It won't do!

It won't do!

You must investigate!

You must not talk nonsense!

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It’s focused after they realize what is effective.

No, it wasn't. Have you read any of the first hand accounts of the BPP?

But at this point I feel like you intentionally missing the point.

The point of movements is to accomplish things. Solarpunk isn't a movement if there is no theory of change.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Effective political action is focused and intentional. The BPP had a plan. There is no central solarpunk organ for democratic decision making, there is no party program. They have nothing that would make them an effective org.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Idk why you think it has to have theory or praxis to be a movement.

If it doesn't have ideas and it isn't testing those ideas through social practice it isn't a movement?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

You sound like you need a peasant's revolution

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Found the idle rent seeker, or worse, a bootlicker for idle rent seekers.

There is a reason why capitalists and socialists both hate landlords, they are a relic of feudalism.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is the joke there that you have him a feminine nickname?

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