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Oh no, please don't isolate yourself further and prevent us and everyone else in the fediverse looking at this instance from being exposed to your opinions, that would really own us.

You'll note how this communist designed open source fediverse structure is less coercive than capitalist reddit while still applying incentives to discourage reactionary behavior. If you entirely isolate yourselves, you've just recreated the structure of reddit.

The very short answer is that imperialism requires very specific economic systems and incentives. Those systems are not going to occur in socialist States because socialist States develop different economic systems than capitalism because the profit motive is absent, which impacts short term and long term economic development plans in many significant ways. For an extreme example look at Juche's emphasis on self reliant socialism within an internationalist socialist order. They cannot do imperialism because all of their economic planning is built around a stable self sufficient economy. An extractivist economy isn't just something you can graft on, it has to be a central part of an economy to make economic sense.

For an example of socialism not being imperialist when it has the opportunity to, you can look at China forgiving loans. It doesn't do so out if the charity of its heart, it does so because it is incentivized to because damaging other nations self determination through financial coercion actively harms its project. It wants strong neighbors with close economic ties, it doesn't want to suck the marrow out of their bones because that is destructive to China in the long term, and socialism is able to plan in the long term unlike capitalism which has to be more short term oriented because of the way its incentives function.

Imperialism is actually a very costly affair (in many cases it costs the home country and only benefits specific lobbyists within that country) compared to mutual cooperation and always rebounds on empire, it only happens because of market failures that do not happen under socialism.

A well cited and factual pro-china article on Zenz that covers several mistranslations.http://english.scio.gov.cn/m/xinjiangfocus/2020-09/14/content_77200391.htm

You can look up a bunch of articles on uyghurs and follow the links for claims. They almost always at some point come back to "Zenz says" with a sprinkle of radio free asia, which is a front for the state department charitably, and a front for the CIA uncharitably. This tactic of circuitous citation was also used when the US wanted to make people believe that Iraq had WMDs.

Here is a right wing anti-china article that talks about 14 different Muslim countries investigating, claiming without any proof that it is all staged. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2023/01/20/2003792883

On poverty alleviation: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-023-01858-w

I dont have a source on reducing poverty decreasing radicalization but Im guessing you'd agree people with a secure economic future are less likely to throw their lives away. If you disagree I can go find some sources.

I'm not the one who believes the paid Russian posters are in the room with us right now, on this niche leftist community that you've graced with your redditor presence.

Bud you need to look up the definition of astroturfing.

We haven't come to a mutually agreed definition and it doesn't seem to be worth my time to do so with you.

I am simply pointing out that you're trying to claim that you were here first, when this website was created by a leftist and populated by leftists, and you only came over here when reddit being a shithole started to effect you personally.

Look up marxist leninist-castroism which believes the role of the vanguard party is to provide resources and education to the people in order for them to lead themselves if thats your problem with vanguard parties and you otherwise believe in communism.

A black and white world where objective measures of press freedoms are apparently inversely proportional to trustworthiness of said journalists.

Oh my god, are you seriously claiming you can objectively measure press freedoms while saying socialists live in a black and white world? Just want to give you a chance to walk back your statement

It isn't sealioning to expect a government or corporate news agency to provide strong citations when making contentious claims.

So you’re saying the CCP was a fascist party?

No, the CPC (the way to say the communist party of China without any racist baggage, which you probably didn't know about but you know now) made a very bad policy decision without very much intelligence about Pol Pot and while trying to stay on the good side of the US because they were very vulnerable.

I’m not sure how someone could respond to you when your response to sources was just rejecting them. I can show you non-Wikipedia sources, but I can only imagine college history curriculum would cause you to respond with accusations of propaganda.

Pol pot was not a communist. You aren't going to find any sources indicating that his policies followed communist ideas, youre just going to find sources repeating his claim that he was a communist. And people who haven't studied what communists actually believe or what policies they implement do not have the knowledge to discern further. People know less about Pol Pot than they do about Hitler but this is the same genre of "The nazis were actually socialists" which can be disproven by knowing what socialists believe and knowing nazi policy and comparing the two.

I can find it reasonable for a person looking at the available evidence to conclude that some communist regimes have committed massive atrocities.

Yes, at a similar level to any ideology that has been in control of a state will. States always produce excesses.

You might disagree, but how is that not (similar to your take on the other guy) soft holocaust denial?

Equating much lesser atrocities to the holocaust minimizes how bad the holocaust was and has historically been used to rehabilitate nazi collaborators and their movements in Eastern Europe. If you're unfamiliar now is the time to research Jewish scholars writing on the "dual genocide myth". "The line goes, with some variation "sure he fought with the nazis but only to liberate his country from the soviets!"

Communism as policy platform generally involves a window of authoritarian rule

A revolution is the most authoritarian thing in the world. It is one class, the proletariat, enforcing their will on another, the bourgeoisie, through physical force. Please read "on authority" and "state and revolution"

that is sometimes a bit difficult to distinguish from fascism (yes, there’s some big ones if you know what to look for).

Please consider that it is only difficult if you dont know a lot about fascism and communism and the waters have been made intentionally murky. (See dual genocide theory) The difference is night and day once you've read some basic analysis of the two systems.

And no Communism has ever reached such a late stage they were able to lighten up on the authoritarian side.

States exercise authority, and you'll always get excesses from them. The difference between proletarian democracy and bourgeois democracy is that in the former, the proletariat controls the democracy, and in the latter, the bourgeoisie controls the democracy. Socialist States aren't perfect, but the authority they wield is more aligned with the interests of the proletariat than under a capitalist government. States are required to protect a socialist society while capitalist empires still exist. When they no longer have external threats, the state should wither away, and if it doesn't, it will be easier to subvert by the will of the people given how the state functions and derives its authority.

Libya

Doing research to prove your assumptions correct or incorrect is literally how science works.