OurToothbrush

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I see that you're from blajah so I'll assuming you're trying to engage in good faith.

Does my opinion have anything to do with calling people the R word being ableist? Why are you asking my opinion on the invasion of Ukraine in this comment thread?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

Oh wow! I didn't get that! Thanks for explaining what you meant. What you said really was clever and compelling.

Christ, the redditors are making pathetic justifications for using slurs.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You claimed socialists shouldn't try to tear down some of the best systems in the world, I said that none of us are going after Cuba.

Edit: my bad, I got you confused with another thread.

I'm not sure they're from hexbear, but IDK. It is a silly bit but I dont get why it is bothering people so much?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Less embarrassing than defending authoritarian colonialist empires.

Cuba? Vietnam? Laos? All these countries are firmly marxist leninist. I'd also like your definition of colonialist if you think that the USSR did colonial extractivism, or China for that matter given how often Africa prefers their loans (and how often they are forgiven instead of being exploited by debt bondage like the IMF does)

Look, capitalism, etc. are awful, but that doesn’t excuse defending authoritarian regimes.

Socialist countries generally have more robust democracies than the global North does. Look at the democratic process that it took to get Cuba's new family code on the ballot. Watch some of the Vietnamese assembly sessions.

It is perfectly possible improve the lives of everyone without atrocities, and defending the people who commit those atrocities severely damages efforts to actually improve society.

I dont defend the atrocities committed(except against actual nazi soldiers and others who carried out the holocaust, that was cool and good), I just defend the projects as they have been a net good for the world and given plenty of lessons to be learned from.

Socialist states commit less atrocities than capitalism ever will because under socialism, atrocities are failures of the system that can be avoided. Under capitalism, atrocities are a normal part of the way systems operate. Accumulation by dispossession is an integral and continuous aspect of capitalism, as is poverty caused by the necessity of a desperate surplus army of labor. To compare them to Nazis, which committed even more atrocities than normal capitalist states, is disingenuous and carries water for Nazis.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

I believe you missed the joke.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reread what I wrote, you missed the joke.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is honestly like watching a conservative be like "wokism and fascism are the same thing" and its embarrassing.

No socialist society ever did the equivalent of the holocaust. They did some lesser atrocities with a much smaller total body count than capitalism or monarchism. Socialists have historically raised people out of poverty, increased literacy and political rights and engagement, and fought against the worst of capitalist reaction (including the fascists, often while liberals stood back and watched or funded the fascists). Nazis scapegoated so they could have a sizeable slave workforce, crush any form of workers solidarity, and destroy the domestic standard of living, all in order to keep the money flowing to people the luxemburgists would have killed or reformed if they weren't stopped by the social democrats.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

LOL it gets better. I decided to click on OP’s history and he had a post on how Biden is supposedly anti-LGBT. Yeah 100% confirmed Russian agent trying to get Trump elected by weakening the Left’s support for Democrats.

  1. Not everyone on the internet is a man, stop assuming it is the default, it is straight up sexist and you're going to end up misgendering a lot of people.

  2. Biden is anti-lgbt in meaningful ways. Well respected trans activists have been talking about it for a while, and the internet censorship bill is just the most recent problem. Should lgbtq people not be allowed to criticize democrats hurting their community because it might help the even worse opposition? What gives you the expertise to say what is best for us?

  3. The idea that I'm a Russian agent is incredibly conspiracy brained, and calling people you disagree with Russian agents seems a great way to avoid growing as a person.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Theyre doing a pretty obvious bit and CPC or Communist Party of China doesn't have the racist baggage the use of CCP does.

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