... ~(yes)~
It isn’t a good faith argument.
This nicely summarizes enormous portions of lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, and a lesser though still quite sizeable proportion of lemmy.ml.
In short, we are trying to turn Lemmy into a Reddit clone, when it is a different toolbox with a different purpose.
Personally I think that people were just so burned out from leaving Reddit, that they just accepted whatever else they could find. Many did not even do that much - I have no idea where a great many of the content creators went, some seemingly went back to X, others from there onto Bluesky, but notably many seemed to have simply left social media altogether. And until this next USA election is over, that's probably for the best...
Anyway, I am saying that people no longer feel the desire to put in the hard work that it takes to moderate a community. Some very few seem to shoulder the vast majority of the work, but it is not spread out. And ironically, this wraps back around to the OP issue, b/c the presence of such toxicity is precisely the reason why (okay well tbf among the top 3 lets say) I, who was a mod of two gaming subs on Reddit, did not want to volunteer my time here. 99% of the effort ends up going to deal with 1% of the people, I am talking about the people for whom "no means yes", i.e. those who e.g. create alt accounts to get around bans and just keep going.
Also, the tools and infrastructure just aren't really here yet. e.g., what concept could be more foundational than "helping guide new users to how Lemmy works?" Do a little digging and you will be fantastically depressed to learn the state of affairs there. e.g. Lemmy.ml's sidebar features a post titled "What is Lemmy.ml", except that is a broken link to a post that must have been removed at some point. And that is the chief instance of Lemmy!? Lemmy.world's status is not much better, pointing to a neat Quick start guide, but so very many features (e.g. cross-posting, and in fact I only count a singular occurrence of the word "instance" in the entire thing). Notably, there is an entirely community to help people get acclimated to Lemmy, called !newtolemmy!newtolemmy@lemmy.ca (yes, that link is messed up, but I left it that way b/c this is how the webUI chose to expand it out - Lemmy is not polished, and is in fact broken in so many ways!), but have you ever heard of that community prior to my mentioning it here? Also nobody has posted to it in the last ten months except 3 posts from Blaze and I. We've asked instance admins to add this community - or some other one like it - to the sidebar of their instances but... crickets. (edit: though lemmy.cafe has it in their top banner, yay - that instance looks so damn welcoming and friendly!!:-)
Sadly, what I conclude from this is that this is still an alpha-level "experiment" in social media. I thought that we were at least in beta but... if so, it is quite low-level. We seem stuck in this downwards spiral where the people aren't willing to put forth effort b/c the infrastructure isn't quite fully here yet. Perhaps Mbin, Piefed, or Sublinks will offer greater hope?
Genuine question: HOW though?!? I've user-blocked the entire instance, yet I see those comments basically everywhere I go, plus they used to not be able to reply to me and have a notification sent to me, but now on 0.19.5 that seems to have been un-done. In no way is a user-block like a personal defederation.
Also, fully 100% (not making this up) of everyone that I have told Lemmy about irl has said that this issue is why they refused to join the Fediverse. As the number of alt accounts goes up (some of them mine) yet the total number remains mostly constant, that spells doom for us eventually.
And it is not fair to the users of lemmy.ml either, for the rest of us to see the instance they come from and immediately brace ourselves for an onslaught - thereby potentially misinterpreting what they say, just b/c their fellows are so arrogant and insensitive and we have come to expect that from them.
The whole "just ignore the cancer and it will go away" approach leaves much to be desired, imho. Feel free to do as you please, but that's not what I am talking about: you asked, and as a result now you know some (certainly not all) of the reasons why others may not wish to do the same.
I triggered myself so I do not know either, nor is it likely relevant in any way since it was emotional rather than logical :-D.
Tu hast mich gefragt, tu hast mich gefragt
Tu hast mich gefragt und ich hab nichts gesagt!
Okay so I didn't see the bottom name at first, bc I was stuck in the loop that is best described by this image:
But if you interpret your image as "Wesley deserves a card too", then hopefully my response makes more sense:-).
Yes, and highly ironically, they act as teen edgelords and some people get banned precisely for being Marxist Leninists. Notably, the bans are often instance-wide, not just a community, and include being banned from communities that the recipient has never so much as heard of, much less posted problematic content into. Even a single sentence such as "the Tiananmen Square massacre actually happened" seems enough to trigger that. In short, like "conservative" Trump supporters in the USA, their claimed political affiliations are beside the point, and the reality is an echo chamber of misinformation and circle-jerking.
The caveat is that the instance admins also include developers of the Lemmy sourcecode so... Also it is one of the oldest Lemmy instances, predating its spread out to the rest of the world. Hence other instance admins do not want to defederate from it. Upcoming updates to the Lemmy sourcecode are also exclusively posted there (afaict, I mean other than raw GitHub).
Anyway, the people who get incubated inside of that echo chamber then come out into the rest of Lemmy, and many of us do not appreciate that.
The more you know.
Okay I lied, apparently:
Exhibit A: - it's so obvious now how fake this transporter clone of him looks here!?
Exhibit B: Have you ever noticed how you never see Janeway and O'Brien together in the same room at the same time? Continuing with the Clark Kent and Superman analogy, it might be possible to capture the change from one to another and OMG there it is!?!?
Exhibit C: - c'mon, don't tell me that you don't see it, "cunning", "miracle worker" - seriously, how did he evade detection for so long already, sheesh!? 🙄 How else could a mere captain come up with a plan to replicate infinite photon torpedoes!? That is the work of an engineer! (The whole coffee schtick was a lie, covering up the raw materials stolen from the nebulas for... "other purposes".)
Exhibit D: Miles O'Brien is so bored ("how bored is he?" "shush, I was just getting to that, if you'll let me speak!" "soooorrrrryyyy your majesty" "don't worry about it, I pardon you, omg is this thing still on?"), he's so bored that he decided to leave the Alpha quadrant and take his adventures elsewhere. The Caretaker was just a fiction - another transporter clone to justify and help sell the whole scenario. After all, we wouldn't want anyone thinking that it was Janeway who wanted to be in the Delta quadrant, now would we? WOULD WE!?....
Edit: Darth Jar Jar has nothing on the genius mastermind behind Miles O'Brien, Janeway, and whatever other identities this Doctor-Who like being has held over the years. He who controls the transmission of matter into energy and vice versa is like unto the gods themselves. Rank bars, gender swaps, nothing is beyond his reach (except you know, the love of Keiko).
YSK that Missouri is going to get worse and worse over time, seeing as how it looks over at states such as Mississippi and says "golly gee willickers, I wanna be more like them!"
Businesses will not move there, some already there will not expand, and some will even outright leave. It will become something of a "healthcare desert". A profound example that I recall reading about during the pandemic was a doctor in I think it was just east of Springfield (but don't recall further details of the location). He started a medical center or something along those lines - the point is that he brought in grant funding, a literal job creator. He had just moved there from somewhere else, however upon receiving literal death threats for offering to give people vaccines and before that telling people to wear masks, he left. For the sake of his daughters, it was not worth it to him to try and stay.
On the one hand, if people of good conscience abandon such areas to whoever remains to vote, that affects the country as a whole, especially via the Senate seats, see e.g. Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, and yes Josh Hawley, who I recall was literally the only one to vote against a particular sex slave trafficking bill - the ONLY ONE!!! But on the other, please take care of yourself too.
First, the entire text is cross-posted from https://feddit.nl/post/16246531 - OP had nothing to add on their own, apparently. The OOP was likewise on feddit.nl. The community happens to be on Lemmy.world.
You also brought up your own personal experiences to add to the situation, so I pointed out that you, being on lemmy.world, would have different experiences than e.g. someone on feddit.nl. I note that that instance has not defederated from either lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.net. If you don't know what they are about, I'm saying that yes lemmy.ml are still "tankies", but like 1% of the problems of toxicity compared to those other two instances, so much so that while lemmy.world remains federated with lemmy.ml, it has chosen to defederate from both of those other two.
Also, don't miss the main reason for the drama in the first place: the images show the OOP being banned. i.e. what you do not see is the point here, bc of the heavy handed banning. So you wouldn't "see" it then, as you say just looking at the popular posts, unless you happened to have been viewing the mod log on your own initiative. The fact that any divergence of opinion is being suppressed is very much the point here. It leads to the creation of an echo chamber, which allows solely the opinions of the admins to be allowed to be spoken of.
But you need not simply believe me: check it out for yourself. e.g. go to lemmygrad.ml and see what is there - it took me (not joking) like two seconds to find this comment: "Shoot him in the head" at https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6010525, all the while making fun of Americans for being violent etc. (though when it happens on lemmy.ml - example, this one admittedly took a lot longer to find, maybe 30 seconds, though it was still on the front page - it tends to be far more tame) Note I am not complaining about the violent rhetoric here, but the total lack of self-awareness. USA=bad bc of genocide, while Russia and China are "not" doing genocide. It's a special brand of "my side good, their side bad", that I for one do not find very intellectually engaging. Therefore I do not choose to engage with Truth Social, or the equivalent Lemmy instances.
Don't mind me - it is simply fun to make fun of Wesley, for uh... reasons:-).