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[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Similar "moderation" practices as done on lemmy.ml, but unlike the latter, the users of Midwest.social themselves seem mostly well-behaved rather than toxic edgelords. Note that not all of the Lemmy.ml users are that way, and I might even believe that most are not, but conversely whenever I see the most batshit insane comments, it is always from one of the big 3: lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, and to a lesser but still extremely notable degree, Lemmy.ml.

https://lemmy.world/post/18414833

https://lemmy.world/post/19849559

etc.

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago

You might want to move your account over to mander.xyz and then browse mostly by Local rather than All or Subscribed.

In large measure what you are describing is considered by most people to be harmless - although it is actually not harmless at all.

Anyway, the good news is that this aspect is mainly "contained" within the communities that actually want that. As opposed to e.g. Facebook where it is everywhere (one presumes - I left it even before the pandemic).

There is an ENORMOUS amount of diversity on the Fediverse, more so than anywhere else I've seen, and nothing at all like Reddit unless you count the small niche communities, but even there... anytime a post would hit r/all people would comment like "brace yourself, the trolls are coming!", plus people in those niche subs would browse all and become tainted by it.

I was one of them. I started noticing how defensive my posture was getting, and becoming more snarky, and then even doing that irl at work. Therefore I left Reddit. I almost left Lemmy too, but I refuse to be that way. Us olds (or maybe you aren't old and instead only mature - or at least talk as if you are haha! ๐Ÿ˜‚) know that we can touch grass and read books - social media is a privilege, not a "right", and not mandatory for my existence (although it is nice to keep up with things, other than having to use e.g. Google News, so I would have had to investigate finding a good RSS reader).

Reddit started to devolve when the "kids" came in and drowned out all the longer-form, more in-depth discussions involving actual facts, and replaced them instead with "I know you are but what am I?", "^This", "I also choose this guy's wife", etc. Which don't get me wrong - humor has its place in the world, it's just that when here are TENS or even HUNDREDS of such comments, IN A ROW, and they get upvoted whereas someone who writes a longer response gets actively downvoted, plus receives demeaning replies ("hey, tell it to someone who cares "), that is when I decided to quit Reddit. Whether I stay here or leave this too, I will not go back to Reddit. Or Facebook.

And most of that I blame the platforms for encouraging people to talk while actively discouraging them from listening. Notice that ads appear between posts, but not between comments, hence they encourage - with their UI elements and such - people posting. One example is how poor their internal search functionality is - oh well, it's easier just to post my question than to search for an answer. Another example is restricting pinned posts to merely 2 - when they could easily allow like 5 or 10 or something, especially if they allow a folder system. And then even the pinned posts would only show up as being pinned under certain conditions, which users of an app may not see. Omg and don't even get me started on their official app....... ๐Ÿคฎ

On Lemmy, it is possible to have good conversations. Make liberal use of the block button to curate what you don't want though, bc moderation is in short supply, and what is there tends to be heavily biased, so e.g. a person behaving as a dick to someone else is likely to do so to you sometime later, so consider your future self's mental health as a priority:-).

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I disagree somewhat bc of one very crucial factor: here bots exist but they tend to be labelled as such. Look in your settings on the web UI if you find this not to be the case.

You click on a user account, then click block them, repeat just a handful of times and then bam, pretty much you have blocked all the bots there are. Yes it takes effort - it's not done by default - but at least it's possible, whereas on Reddit there is simply nothing that can be done, with virtually any amount of effort. Over there they are baked right into the system... right?

And here the bots are, or even can be, helpful. A bot that you know is a bot is a good bot, or at least an honest one.:-)

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago

Moreover, the founding fathers warned us of this happening, in advance. They knew that it would, they told us that it was all but inevitable, we have had multiple centuries of time in which to shore up democracy... like to implement ranked-choice voting, while instead... we chose not to.

I do not hold out hope for democracy to last much longer, not against such repeated assaults as this. The game of Russian Roulette never ends in happiness, but it does always end.

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago

Which itself is something notable imho, in showing how far it has come along, i.e. as a barometer reading on how far gone his supporters are.

They used to hide it, feeling more shame that their views might not be as acceptable by the general public as they now know that they are.

Don't forget that some sitting members of Congress are currently calling for an active, not-joking civil war.

We ignore all of this at our peril.

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not to be confused with the story about saying the word "transporter" three times and summoning the elder god oh who am I kidding I mean Miles O'Brien who appears as if from out from a pocket universe or something.

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 10 points 10 months ago

Damn, that dude gets around.

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[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 10 months ago

Instructions unclear. Got free and unlimited electricity anyway. So now neighbors won't ever leave me alone.

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago

I tend to start out that way... but it can be so easy to forget and get sucked in. Well, so long as you know what you are doing!:-)

[โ€“] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am glad to have maybe helped, even if only in some small way.:-)

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