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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

Complex problems will not be solved overnight, it's true, but we can get there one step at a time!:-)

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh no you di'nt, I know you did not just say "that" word!

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Edit: excellent setup there btw, thanks:-).

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

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And now you have shared this with us all, asking for no remuneration just that we use & enjoy, in true FOSS style - awesome!:-)

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

Here is an excellent comment from 3 days ago, so it should be federated everywhere by now? I just shared that link with someone else in fact, in an unrelated reply. I then went to Lemmy.World and searched for that link, but it does not find the original, although it does find my recent sharing of it. I also searched on reddthat.com, and saw the same behavior. And lemm.ee as well. So the "sometimes it works" effect may have some additional not-entirely-characterized triggers for that behavior, but it definitely does not work all the time as a "find this comment" feature as we are discussing.

So as it now stands there is a way to use this search feature to find posts, but not reliably to find comments. Though that is still more than I knew a week ago before Blaze shared this trick with me then:-).

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's neat - though I would worry that it could get polluted easily, e.g. China, Russia, and/or fascists everywhere would very much like to control the conversation, so as it got a wider userbase that would be the time for it to cease functioning, whereas before that it could be allowed as something to occupy our time. So much of our daily lives are impacted by such geopolitics that we don't even/often think of.

I hope that we (people writing FOSS) can explore the concept of voting more - e.g. how wikipedia does its edits with "trust actors", similarly the Fediverse (& searching) could have a much wider pool of trusted community mods (or potentially a lesser category of that, lacking full post-removal capability as current ones do) where mods could vote and once something went below a certain threshold (e.g. 5x more down- than up-votes from such community curators), then a flag could go up like "this post has been marked as containing potential misinformation - are you sure that you would like to read it?" By distributing the load like that, it could help make this place MUCH more active, by lowering the barrier to moderation as it conjoins normal reading activities with a very simple button bush for most people. (and then a higher category of mods can double-check the curator mods, etc.)

On the other hand, authoritarian developers are unlikely to want to extend the Lemmy code along those lines, and rather go the opposite direction so that anytime someone says something even the slightest bit against their party line, boop the person becomes insta-banned in every single community that they have ever interacted in, even if never having commented but solely voted in them (I am not exaggerating this up - for one see the notes for the upcoming v0.19.4 release allowing this capability, and multiple recent threads discussing how this has already happened to numerous people - e.g. here is one excellent accounting of that process).

So anyway, if someone is willing to build a good system, then the people do seem willing to take it forward - e.g. see how many have already done so to Google Maps with all the reviews & pics including menus & such to share with everyone. But ofc there will be resistance to now doing that again for somewhere else, and perhaps still yet again if that one fails, and so on in perpetuity.:-(

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah it is counter-intuitive to me. e.g. the URL of this actual OP (not the one used in your example, but this meta-one) appearing in my browser is "https://discuss.online/post/8717646", although its origin is "https://reddthat.com/post/20423663", and e.g. from Lemmy.World it is "https://lemmy.world/post/16390207", from sh.itjust.works it is "https://sh.itjust.works/post/20655918", there's https://dubvee.org/post/dubvee.org/1318278, and https://lemmy.max-p.me/post/lemmy.max-p.me/1264377, and https://programming.dev/post/15341414, and so on - all with different values.

Yet putting it into the search box manages the translation to find the correct post. There are so many areas of Lemmy that still lack polish - and K/Mbin even more so - but here is a great feature that is there yet people don't even realize that.

I am curious: how did you even know to try that - is it written in the docs somewhere, or you just tried it and it worked?

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No I don't think comments works that way. For one, your search returns no results when accessed from on my instance, or from lemmy.world, etc. And for another, I have seen comments have different numerical tags after the instance name - e.g. mousing over the chain link icon vs. the colored fediverse graph sign icon shows the different values there.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

Oh yes that's MUCH better! Whether your original goal was to encourage people to read the article, or to encourage us all to have a conversation about the matter, either way this helps a ton to increase discoverability! I mean, as you say it's probably too late now, but still it should help - I get people replying to my comments days to over a week later sometimes - and it is good practice for next time:-).

Thanks for the synopsis.:-)

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it's a poor title, and even if it was as you said there is a constraint there, but rather my beef was how the title was the only piece of information offered.

I am not accusing you of trying to sell anything commercially - I was offering some advice to help you get the message out that you wanted to spread. This is not your family that you might expect to click on every single link that you send, this is a social media platform where people from all walks of life are here, and you had an opportunity to not quite "sell" but "encourage" people to read this post. I ran into a similar situation in the past where I posted a video, and someone was kind enough to explain why they did not want to watch it, so I added a description and while it was too late for discoverability, it did help I think.

Yeah some people are discussing the content too, I was hyper-focusing on the delivery aspect here, in case it was of interest to you.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

There could literally be some Reddit shills there, or "useful" people who somehow are still holding on tooth & nail to the Reddit name - some people are just like that - and actually I am glad that those have not migrated over to here, even purely to do trolling:-).

But there are a lot of centrist, middle-of-the-road people, as well as right-leaning people too, who could add their voices here and contribute to the ongoing conversation - b/c not everything is about politics (even if so many people try to turn the conversation towards that here, and I am guilty of that as well; yet gardening, woodworking, knitting, etc. - not everything needs to bring it up consistently).

There is so much that we could do to make this place more "welcoming" for others. And I see you doing that tirelessly, so thanks!:-)

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

Is that realistic though? I mean obviously it is optimistic ofc. Looking at the behavior of the likes of Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg, Trump, etc., I don't think they care about how sustainable kindness is or could be, based on technology or whatever, and there is an insubstantial chance that for them even so much as the cruelty may not be the point, but rather as they chase their dreams (of making daddy proud of them or whatever), it becomes a "game" (see also Wolf of Wall Street) to "win". At which point the needless deaths of literally millions (and soon billions?) does not even bring them glee, so much as it fails to register entirely on their scope. i.e. there seems a deep disconnect between humanitarian principles and how daily life works inside of one of those companies, even as those mega-corporations put other companies - and more notably mom & pop shops - out of business.

So I don't know about actually being able to dismantle capitalism (then again I'm not arguing against efforts to try), just saying that we all need to do our own parts, for what is right in front of us.

Also a lot of these types of activities - e.g. providing therapy as mentioned in the OP - used to be provided by religious services. People go to church, and old people scream at the young people "don't make that decision!", like "don't marry him/her of all people!", or even just "get up off your butt and go get a real job!" As society transitions away from that religious framework, we need to ensure that these basic human needs get met in other ways, which oftentimes I think they just do not. In the old TV show Friends, people would meet in a coffee shop and discuss their lives, providing feedback, offering to be a sounding board, picking up the slack by taking someone in if they needed a place to sleep, etc. But irl, how many people have such "friends" to do this for them, I wonder? Especially if e.g. a young person flees the rural areas they grew up in - an extremely common scenario, as in roughly 100% of all rural people that I have ever met (tbf, I am someone who lives in a city:-P) - and so leaves behind those old connections from their youth.

So in essence we are saying similar things, just my focus is on a smaller scale while you are talking about bigger things, which we may never see happen in our lifetimes - especially as the entire world transition harder & deeper into fascism. (especially when the only counter trend to that seems to be neoliberalism which is only like 1 step removed?)

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