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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

This is also useful to judge what the mod is doing - if it’s just a bad week it’s kind of understandable

Well now... that's kind of a slippery slope there, imho. If a doctor "has a headache", and thereby kills their patient due to negligence, is that okay? I mean, nobody is arguing that they should never have headaches, but to collect salary, and take up a slot that could have gone to someone else, and basically assert (by showing up for the job, in that role) that they are okay to do it, but then to NOT do it - that's not okay?

Here again, I am saying that people in positions of authority and power are held to a higher standard. A doctor who allows their patient to DIE as a result of their negligence, isn't merely having a bad day, or week, they have a moral failing that allowed them to show up for that day or week, and lie about their own capacity - either to others, knowing full well themselves how they felt, or else to themselves first, and then unknowingly relayed that information to others (especially since as a medical doctor, they should know better - not about every single thing in the world e.g. nuclear physics, yet "headaches" are well within their reputed scope of expertise).

Mind you, I need to be VERY careful here: I am not talking about a "sudden onset" of a headache, that nobody could have predicted in advance. And by extension I also do not mean like one that on a scale of 1-10 was a 1 when they went in that morning but by the end of the day got to a 2, and then suddenly in a single moment of time spiked all the way to 10, whereupon in seconds the patient died - that indeed is a "bad day", unpredictable, if not entirely, then mostly, if lets say that the "reasonable expectation" is that the headache could maybe go up from 2 to 3, but not 10? No, I'm talking about like it started off as 10, remained as 10 all weekend, but then when it's time to go to work it has not gone down but remains still at 10... there exists a set of circumstances that are so blatantly irresponsible that they cross over to become "criminally negligent".

I think Trump crossed that line during the pandemic - causing more "excess deaths" than all wars combined (if you think that I am wrong on that statistic, then please Please PLEASE correct me, but I do recall reading that somewhere... anyway we'll never know, b/c those numbers were hidden from us and we are not allowed to have that information, from certain states e.g. Florida). It wasn't just casually irresponsible - it was genocide. Aside from that, it was also a bad event for him... but it was not MERELY thus, yeah?

So getting back to the vegan mod, if she were to be forcibly ousted as a result of this "bad week", that does not seem too harsh for me? Perhaps if she apologized, seemed sincere about her admission of guilt, and wanted to make reparations somehow, it would conversely not be so bad if she were not forcibly removed from the entire instance... but the mod position is different. The standards that a normal user are held to are one thing, while a leader must be held to different, higher ones. Like a doctor, like the President of the United States, not in spite of the fact that they hold their position of authority, but because of exactly that.

About the past: yes I understand that sometimes the fascists may babble about this or that, but I was saying that I do not think that it should be considered as a core part of their identity structure. A fascist can still be one, even if they use different tools, just like a terrorist who uses a bomb is no lesser than a terrorist who uses an automated rifle, despite the former not using the same tool of the latter - such a weapon may quality someone as a "shooter", but the definition of "terrorist" is more about the action accomplished, spreading terror, than the precise details of whichever weapon was used to make it happen?

And yes, I totally agree that perhaps the concepts of intention need to be, if not entirely discarded, then at least fade into the background? But also, you can't do something at the level of an entire society, without having had the opportunity for at least one person to have pushed back, at some point along the way - like the situation with Kansas & steak for the poors, SOMEONE just HAD to have warned them... and then they did it anyway. Hitler simply cannot use the excuse that "oh, I did not realize... you see, my mother never warned me that full-on concentration camps and death squads were bad things, gasp/shock, I simply never knew that... therefore I should not be punished, b/c of my ignorance". Whatever people who get caught may SAY in their defense, they were in positions of authority and power, hence are held to account for their actions, whatever inscrutable motives they may have had.

Conversely, a scenario like a baby pressing a button that manages to cause a nuclear explosion reveals an entirely different set of factors. For them, intention matters, whereas e.g. for a technician whose sole job it is to stand by that button and press it if the call ever comes, but then also to never press it otherwise, except then one day... "whoopsie! an entire zillion people (yes! with a z I say!!! just b/c!!:-D) just died, my bad guys, I was just trying to adjust my shorts you see..." The reason intention does not matter for the latter person is b/c that was their sole job - they were trained to push, and also (arguably FAR more importantly!) to not push that button. Thus their failure to follow their training - but again, still collect a salary, still take up a slot that could have been given to someone else, etc. - rises to a level of criminality that the baby who has zero clue what is going on does not.

Ergo, if Trump had remained merely a TV star, then the fact that he doesn't even know what a "virus" is wouldn't matter the slightest bit, it was only because he rose to become President - ousting Hillary Clinton who otherwise would have done the job - that that fact became relevant. imho at least:-)

Sorry to hear about your computer problems, but I am so glad that you got them fixed and can now enjoy a more pleasant interaction on Lemmy, rather than try to work on a tiny screen:-).

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

You do not seem to be banned from anything that I can see: https://discuss.online/modlog?page=1&userId=3001113.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

B/c this is just the tip of the iceberg, and b/c a stitch in time saves nine and all that jazz. And b/c some find it entertaining to discuss about:-). And b/c it's not fair, e.g. how would you feel if I told you that because you commented here, you automatically receive a...

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Yeah, I don't care about that community either!:-P

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, my sincere apologies for my other reply. I had too much of Lemmy yesterday... after several DUMBASS replies trolling me (like putting words into my mouth, then ridiculing those straw man concepts - really though, I should have known better than to say that I like Mac OSX, even in a non-Linux, general-technology community, anywhere on the Fediverse, as that never fails to bring out the trolls from under the bridge... whenever will I learn!?:-P), I started to presume guilt everywhere I looked, and essentially unwittingly fed forward that negative behavior onto you, so again my apologies. This community I hope will remain better than that.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

He seems to think like a mathematician or philosopher and enjoyed considering each of those items separately, in isolation from one another - plus as a YouTuber, he needs to release moar content, moar often, so multiple videos helps him maintain his existence that way as opposed to a single, larger video, especially on a complex topic that since it is >1 minute long, the vast majority of people are not going to watch anyway.:-P

But anyway, if he's already mathematically proved certain things about e.g. ranked-choice, and how it differs from whatever else, then why should he bother going further into the weeds, that the vast majority of people don't care the tiniest bit about? After all, a look at basically every election ever, especially recently, reveals that the common people know next to nothing about how the system works. e.g. people voting against Hillary Clinton in 2016, either by voting 3rd party, or switching to the "Never Hillary" movement to actively vote for Trump, but then being shocked - shocked I tell you! SHOOKETH! - when he won. So if we can't figure out that 1+1=2, then differential calculus, much less simple algebra, is going to be beyond us (collectively) as well.

So, I took it as not that he refused to consider those other possibilities, just that he was focusing his description to explain one thing in isolation of other concepts, as much as possible at least. e.g. regardless of whether he should have been talking about (or naming it as) FPTP, that's what he was aiming to do, so that's what he did.

About the Rules for Rulers I think similarly as above but also: the "rulers" there aren't necessarily the ones in charge, as is true for the monarchies & totalitarian regimes, but rather the "voters" who put those people in charge. In that formulation, why should the non-voters (e.g. literal children, people who are mentally disabled, etc.) have power over & above that of the voters, i.e. the responsible "rulers"?

Although that is exactly what always ends up happening... eventually, in any such system. Imagine a person who votes, individually, but then also is responsible for gerrymandering a district of lets say a million people. So they should have had power equal to 1/1000000, though instead they overturned the decisions of those million people and single-handedly altered the election, FAR in excess of their individual voting power. They cannot overturn the collective weight of a full million voters all speaking with a single unified voice... but they could make a vote for e.g. 1/10th vs. 9/10ths end up with the former rather than the latter being in charge, which is pretty damn powerful (it doesn't have to be "perfect", it just has to work - possibly in conjunction with other things like removing certain classes of people as voters). So here, irl rather than in pure theory in isolation of irl considerations, "rulers" end up NOT being the voters, but rather those in charge b/c they are willing to cheat the system, to keep themselves in charge or at least others exactly like them, using non-voting schemes. i.e. it is the True Rulers(TM) who are "in charge" rather than the voting ones, who were put into place by non-voting systems, so the entire system gets turned upon its head and does if not 100% then still effectively the opposite of what it was originally intended to - that is, it ignores/overturns votes rather than uses them to determine the outcomes of elections.

So if we, the aspiring rulers i.e. voters, wish to actually rule, then we need to know what we are up against. And if others cheat... well then that does not mean that we have to as well, but we should at least be aware that that is what is going on!?! To some degree at least, even if not 100%, hence it is "biased" and "unfair" and "rigged". That is what I took from those videos, collectively.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 7 points 1 year ago

Yes I have an order ready for a "None-ya", is there a "None-ya" here? Is anyone here named "None-ya bidness"?

It's a damnable choice, that's for sure. Let them see literally everything that you do - in the sense of every single app that you have installed on that same machine - or else pay the extra price. Ngl, depending on how often I visit each place, I've gone both ways on this. Also, rather than recall a unique password for every site that is accessible from your mobile and potentially synched with a desktop, if you log in using a Play/Google or App/Apple account, then they have that link too - it's just so convenient though!

It used to be email addresses. Now that still happens, but the ratchet has moved up to include phones. This is why I refuse to put banking apps onto any mobile devices - they are not "computers", nor are they "yours", most often even when rooted & with the OS replaced, b/c of the corruption that Google has introduced into the core Android OS.

But... what else can we do, other than choose which manner of payment we will offer the wolves? Even if that is only in terms of our efforts, time, and attention spans (and possibly the cost of a 2nd phone or at least SIM:-P) - they manage to define so many of our actions even if only in the negative sense of what we rail against. That part is inevitable, so the only question remaining is how much do we give in.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Somewhat.

If the poster themselves removed it, then no - these usually shows up as "deleted" rather than "removed" (but not always). Sometimes apps that don't properly pay attention to the removal request can still see these, but I know of no effective way to view these routinely, short of spinning up your own instance and archiving not only every post and comment but also all of their edits as well.

For mod removal, you can check the modlog (for your instance here, or the one for Lemmy.World, both of which theoretically should show the same contents, but in practice they don't for whatever reasons). Note that is the entire modlog for the entire Fediverse, so it requires filtering to find the specific post/comment that you want to know about. The Lemmy devs could help people see the modlog much easier, but they don't. They don't seem too big on such democratic efforts, and very often simply ban people outright, from the entire instance including communities they've never once visited, if you ever criticize what they say or if you say something that they do not agree with. Though they did recently release a feature to allow mods to do this - further increasing the power of the establishment, while leaving common plebes like us to have to filter the modlog (which also can hide the identity of the mod who removed it).

Ergo, I would not hold my breath waiting for this feature. At least not on Lemmy, but perhaps from the more democratically-managed PieFed or Sublinks or Mbin or such... I could really see that happening for those?

Edit: oh but for text like the "removed", hell no, that's also a lost cause - at least, again, on the Lemmy codebase, unless you use an instance that decides not to implement the language filtering.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Okay so fast-forward ~~ten~~ two more years beyond that (it doesn't matter how much - all of this is already in the past anyway:-P): virtually everyone (from your area) has an internet presence. But for you, all "they" see is a tiny stream of encrypted traffic to servers outside of your home country. Or maybe a large stream, whatever - are you downloading child pornography perhaps? Or are you a terrorist, trying to evade detection by the "legitimate" establishment, who is simply trying to "help" you to set the price for fixing your laptop?

Bam, they charge you the maximum amount for the repair anyway, then tack on a fee for the extra effort involved in having to investigate you further, making the final price double what it would have been. And this happens for every single item you buy, plus you cannot get a job b/c you don't have a FacedInLinkThread account. The best sheeples get the best pricing structures...

This isn't something that individuals can fight easily, without a rather extreme amount of effort involved. Hence we should fight it together.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for confirming that you think of me as your bitch. This after all is why I left Reddit - to come here to do exactly the same.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

An aspect he completely ignores in favour of spreadsheet thinking.

That's bc he explains each concept mostly in isolation of others, leaving other concepts for separate videos themselves. But in e.g. Rules for Rulers, he very much discusses power dynamics. And I thought he had another one - in addition to the more mathematical one - illustrating FPTP using the animal kingdom, where technically people might assume one thing to be true, but based on power dynamics in practice it never is.

So watch Rules for Rulers yet if you haven't - it may change literally everything about your understanding, as it did mine.

Edit - references:

  1. FPTP explanained mathematically

  2. gerrymandering explained separately

  3. rules for Rulers, outlining necessary considerations involved with any path forward - i.e. it works against anyone and especially those who ignore this principle

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

I hoped for that at my previous job, and they said it could happen... but it was never going to, and it was a false hope offered. Why do that to me man...? 😭

Then I come to my current job, and they have a super old Mac laptop that was barely holding on that nobody else wanted, and I'm like "yes please"!

Bc if its Windows vs. Mac, and especially if "nothing" isn't even an option, then a million times out of a million I will choose super old, barely holding on Mac that nobody else wants.:-)

It's a single SSH command away from my work Linux, and it has MacVim, tons of other open source software available, plus a bunch of stuff that only Mac OSX has, like Preview and other fairly nice tools, which have open source equivalents like ImageMagick and gimp, but aren't nearly as easy to use.

I don't need a nice car, and I went without one entirely until I moved to the Midwest where it becomes absolutely necessary, but it's essential to have a good computer for me:-).

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago

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Every breath you take, every move you make, every bond you break, every step you take, I'll be watching you...

Can't you see, you belong to me? My poor heart aches with every step you take!

- The Police

So it's not even "our" data at all, see...? (/s, or rather in the Machiavellian sense, that so long as people with power are willing to ~~eat~~ "own" us, then they have that right - same as Russia owns Ukraine and Israel owns Gaza, etc.)

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