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So first you lied about things you wrote in this very thread and you now you went over to intentionally misreading what I wrote to make accusations (and while I didn't talk about Israel supporting Hamas here -maybe you are confusing things you read here with the ones on your spreadsheet of talking points-, Israels government indeed supported them financially and that's as well documented as other things you deny)? How about you bother someone else with your crude propaganda techniques?
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There are reports that IDF members were there, too. Shooting back amid civilians. It was probably chaotic and nobody actually knows who was shot by whom, because Israel is refusing to even investigate. In fact they also refuse to make public how many IDF members were there and how many died or how many Hamas members died. They only categorically tell us a total number, implying all dead were peaceful civilians killed by Hamas.
No, I want Isreal's government and military to account for the things they did and not get a free pass because "BuT hAMaS".
You however have fully eaten up the propaganda of how everyone questioning Israel is somehow magically supporting Hamas and trying to deflect from their terrorist acts. And only when you realize that your bullshit claims like
The whole reason there were any casualties is because Hamas attacked
They [Hamas] created that fog of war though.
The rest is just propaganda until you can produce data to back it up. Just stating that Israel committed blue on blue attacks is not really good enough.
don't fly, you pay lip service to allegedly being critical of both sides, only to then instantly continuing to blame Hamas for Israel killing people.
Many thousands have died needlessly in the unnecessary, unwinnable, and increasingly unaffordable war in Ukraine.
Yeah, sure. It's entirely a needless and unnecessary war... unless of course they would like their country to keep existing and not get jailed, deported, "re-educated" or killed in the atrocities Russians are documented to commit in the areas occupied.
Somehow I couldn't bring myself to read more of this bullshit after that first sentence...
Those civilians would not have died if Hamas had not attacked civilian areas.
And yet, by your very own bullshit IDF soldiers shooting civilians are indeed innocent because it's all Hama's fault.
"there is not innocent party in this conflict" is not some solve-all catchphrase to get rid of criticism. It needs to actually be applied and those soldiers need to scrutinized for what happened there.
And nobody said that Hamas terror acts were not an atrocity. What was instead criticised is the fact that IDF soldiers also taking their part in killing civilians there is completely and pointedly ignored.
Which you then justify with some bullshit of how it would not have happened without the Hama's attack in the first place.
So my point stands: If you think that soldiers indiscriminately shooting civilians is to blame solely on Hamas, then police shooting civilians while trying to stop a robbing is to be blamed solely on the robber, too.
So if someone robs a shop, the police arrives and starts shooting killing several bystanders means the robber is now charged with murder and the police involvement isn't scrutinized.
Is that really the argument you are trying to make here?
Sure... if you start at your deeply ingrained believe that Germany is always wrong, to then find "arguments" from there, it makes perfect sense that not supporting the US line in Iraq and supporting the US line in Israel are magicallly the same thing.
Andersrum ist's richtig. Die Leute verstehen das sehr wohl. Die Regierung und der öffentliche Rundfunk hingegen arbeiten aktiv daran, eine alternative Wirklichkeit zu verbreiten.
... but will instantly fabricate reasons why the car will be needed at least 5 times a day anyway.
Richtig, das weiß Israel immer nur exakt dann, wenn sie wieder ein Krankenhaus bombadieren, weil sie genau wissen, weilche einzelne Persönlichkeit der Hamasführung in einem Tunnel darunter war. Oder wenn sie mal wieder einen Krankenwagen in die Luft jagen, weil sie genau wissen, welche Hamasmitglieder sich über welchen Weg dahin geschlichen haben, um sich darin zu verstecken.
Wie jetzt? Dann ist exakt diese wiederholte Aussage Israels eine dreiste Lüge?
Mit Hilfe der von dir zitierten jüdischen Magie? Denn mit dem Abwurf von mehreren Tausend Bomben innerhalb von Tagen (mehr als in Jahrzehnten in manch anderen Kriegen verwendet wurden), steht ja eindeutig noch viel zu viel. Viel sollte Israel das an einem Tag erledigen?
PS: Und auch schön, wie du versuchst die Kritik an der Israelischen Regierung und Armee ganz ungeniert auf "die Juden" umzudeuten. Woher kommt nochmal das Propagandanarrativ, dass jede Kritik an Israels Regierung eine Kritik an Juden und somit antisemitisch motiviert ist? Achja... aus der selben ~~Jauchegrube~~ PR-Abteilung in der israelischen Regierung, wie der Rest deines Schwachsinns.