Objection

you can barely muster half a sentence of admission that trump might not be the savior of Gaza you’re implying

I challenge you to find one thing I have said, at any time, anywhere, that implies that. You are simply lying, and again, attempting to discredit me because you know you can't address my points.

If you don’t want to be accused of being a trump supporter, at least make some effort towards even a tiny bit of balance.

I respond to what I see. Point me to any Trump supporter on here and I will tell them why they're wrong. It's just that the vast majority of people on here, myself included, are quite clear in recognizing Trump as an awful candidate who isn't worthy of serious consideration at all.

For you, any factual criticism of trump and the republicans must be countered by a wall of conspiracy theory about how Biden’s attempts to negotiate peace

Very rich of you to call my position on that a "conspiracy theory," when mine is backed by actual facts and yours isn't. If Biden or Kamala cared at all about stopping the genocide, they could do it in four words: "No aid until withdrawal." It's ridiculously easy.

You can not provide any explanation for why they don't do this. The only thing you can do is completely dismiss any and all criticism of your candidate, the exact same way Trump supporters do.

I have zero loyalty to the Democrats or to the Republicans, I'm quite open to that, yet you keep insisting that I have to demonstrate loyalty to your side or I'm automatically a bad actor. It's ridiculously tribalistic. This sort of behavior, people brainwashing themselves into ignoring reality, automatically dismissing all criticism, and unthinkingly championing every action of absolute ghouls, and sorting every single individual into one of two camps, is one of the reasons I want nothing to do with either of your backwards parties.

I tell you I hate Trump, you tell me I love Trump, and when I tell Trump supporters I hate Biden or Harris, they tell me I love Biden and Harris, for exactly the same reasons. What a boring, small world you all live in together, where those two perspectives are all that exist. I want nothing of it.

Now go ahead and respond to me without answering my criticisms (since you cannot, since they are objectively correct) and keep focusing on who (you think) I am, rather than what I say.

The rebels destroyed Alderaan with their own superweapon they had been developing underground. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

OK, the Death Star did fire on Alderaan, but it was a targeted, focused strike that hit a rebel facility which caused their superweapon to explode and destroy the planet, the Empire had no idea that would happen. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

OK, the Death Star did destroy the planet, but the rebels were still developing a superweapon and even more people would've died otherwise. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

OK, the rebels weren't developing a superweapon on Alderaan, but the destruction of the planet were the actions of a rogue moff acting without approval. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

OK, the Emperor's right hand man was in the room when it was decided, but Emperor Palpatine has invited every surviving Alderaanian to his own private resort world, and they're also rebuilding with a new colony on Ejolus. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

OK, the colony on Ejolus has been wiped out, but they were harboring rebels. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

I'm not going to discuss how I feel about you doubling down on "minority rights have always been handed down from above" because I don't want to get banned, suffice to say I have no interest in discussing anything further with you.

So you believe that Biden should be completely immune to all criticism no matter what he does so long as he's not Trump? I should just invent a fantasy world where Biden is perfect the way you do because acknowledging reality might hurt Kamala's chances? If I was interested in doing that, then I would've done it with the beliefs I was raised with, and I'd be a religious conservative. Fortunately, I'm willing to think critically and face reality, instead of putting party above truth, as you seem to be suggesting I do right now. I want no part in any group or political ideology that requires me to lie or ignore the truth.

Keep repeating that conspiracy theory to yourself all you want. Ad hominem is the only response you libs can ever muster. You can't refute what I actually say, so you just focus on trying to paint me as a secret Trump supporter. Weak.

Are you denying the fact that Biden has bypassed congress to send weapons to Israel? Because if so you are dead wrong.

I have her statements and the actions of the administration she's been a part of for the past four years. That's evidence.

If I see that a person has murdered three people, I don't have "proof" that they're going to keep murdering people in the future, but I have strong enough evidence to say that they present a danger to society. Don't play dumb and pretend that you don't understand that actions and statements provide evidence for future behavior.

It's always counterfactuals, isn't it? You think Gore would've been different on points that he never distanced himself from and that you can't point to anything concrete to show he would've been different, in the exact same way that you think Kamala might be different. So what? That's not evidence. That means nothing, it's purely in your head, based off vibes.

I picked my username and pic because I believe in basing my beliefs on evidence.

And another thing, when politicians do lie about their positions, more often than not, it's almost always for the worse. Or maybe they're sincere on the trail but respond to established pressured once in office. I remember when Obama said he was going to end mass surveillance and protect whistleblowers, how'd that play out? Nowadays, they even skip the part where they promise good things entirely, and it doesn't matter because no matter what they do or don't do, you'll find a way to explain how they're secretly gonna do what you want.

I'll admit it right now. Not that it matters why Netanyahu is refusing to negotiate.

You seem to be under the impression that "negotiation" means "asking nicely and giving up if they say no." If Netanyahu refuses to cooperate, you stop giving him weapons until he does. Obviously. How bad do you have to be at negotiating to not realize that?

Harris is part of the current administration and has been fully consistent on their line. So, no, it's not different, and we do have a clear idea what she'll do as president. She will say that what's happening there makes her feel sad, then send a bunch more weapons unconditionally, and you'll be proven completely wrong but it won't give you a moment's pause because Trump would've been worse, so what did it matter if what you were saying was true, as long as it helped her get elected and helped you push aside some cognitive dissonance?

Also, are you suggesting that the QAnon "trust the plan" line was/would've been valid before Trump was in office? Because it wasn't.

Do you think Biden needs Trump's approval to stop sending Netanyahu weapons?