NoneOfUrBusiness

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 18 points 5 days ago (28 children)

Hamas Member of Parliament Khalil al-Hayya, also deputy chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau, told the Associated Press in April 2024 that Hamas is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#7_Oct_2023%E2%80%93present

Hamas's goal has been a Palestinian state for years now. Also, Hamas had already agreed to give back the hostages and not rebuild its military capabilities in Trump's January ceasefire; it was Israel who reneged on that like it has reneged on every other ceasefire agreement it has ever signed.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago

They do care when the scientist is picking which one should survive based on the number of their legs, which is exactly what was happening in the Cold War.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But this is not nearly so true with other states in the region, which have historically had a military and foreign policy posture of wanting Israel's complete destruction, and made strikes, wars and statements to that effect.

Setting aside that that's not at all true, what's wrong with opposing a state committing and built on Apartheid and ethnic cleansing? Do you think the appropriate response to these actions is to do nothing?

how disastrous it would be for Iran to have a nuclear weapon

How the fuck does that lead to supporting Israel against Iran when Iran has been nothing if not cooperative with the international community on the subject? Nobody, literally nobody other than Netanyahu himself thinks Iran is trying to build nukes. Also why would Iran having nukes be more disastrous than Israel having them?

My point is that you (and other people in this thread) seem motivated more out of a desire to see the destruction of the state of Israel than out of a desire for justice and a world free of ethnic cleansing.

Because?

That doesn't mean that helping to protect Israeli civilians from rocket attacks was the wrong thing to do.

And do you not see how that "protection" directly supports Israel's subjugation of Palestinians?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Left and right aren't political/economic ideologies; they're broad categories and any economic system will necessarily have to lean towards one or the other.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 5 days ago

Maybe the drama was the real secret ingredient in Good Food's recipe?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 5 days ago

Hell, they accepted it once and then reneged on it. That was the Trump deal.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 5 days ago

Obviously this was always about genocide; I'm not disputing that. My point is that the Palestinian resistance evolved under and against the backdrop of Israeli intelligence, so they're not exactly sitting ducks for the IDF to assassinate.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's not that easy. Hamas leadership goes to great lengths to protect themselves from Israeli assassinations. Yehia Sinwar for example didn't use a smartphone for this very reason. It's also harder for people to "not risk it" when they're denied the right to even hope for a better future.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 5 days ago

because they were on the fence between joining and which side.

I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

After Japan invaded China and Germany invaded Poland, Roosevelt provided aid to China, Great Britain, and France, but the Neutrality Acts prevented the United States from becoming closely involved. After the Fall of France in June 1940, Roosevelt increased aid to the British and began to build up American military power.

The motivation for the late US entry into the war was isolationism and not wanting to get dragged into another war in Europe, not sympathy for the Nazis.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago

Russia is really sounding like Israel here, and I do not say that lightly.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 5 days ago

Yeah. Usually one would worry about fascists invading countries with an ethnicity they don't like for Lebensraum, but "fortunately" America has plenty of minorities on its own soil so the Holocaust can be implemented completely domestically.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's legitimately insane that even Germany is acting while Britain isn't.

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