MystikIncarnate

Actually, that's a typo. I intended to put left leaning, I thought I put left leaning, and reading it back a moment before seeing your comment, I noticed the error.

Whoops. My bad.

I couldn't give less of a fuck what his political ideologies are.

It never even crossed my mind he was on the right nor that he would be on the left.

I will say, doing something for the greater good is a very leftist ideology, however doing something out of anger and vengeance would be more universal. Regardless of motivation, the thing he accomplished will (hopefully) be something that inspires change, specifically in regards to healthcare in the USA.

I'm not an American, and your healthcare, or lack thereof, isn't really my problem. That being said, I'm more left leaning, and I believe in social programs (like healthcare for all). I have government healthcare where I am and as someone on the lower end of the "economic ladder" let me tell you, it's pretty great. Sure, I might have to wait longer for some procedures, but if I'm upset about that, I can go to my GP and have my feelings checked.... for free.

The system itself must regard itself as fair, therefore if there is a clear and present violation of the law, they must enforce the punishment for that violation.

The problem is that the crimes if these healthcare CEOs, are indirect. They sign into policy that people should be denied coverage based on bullshit. This leads to damages in the form of unemployment (hard to work when you're sick constantly), pain, suffering, and death.

Since their actions didn't immediately and directly kill the person, only by their inaction, or their refusal to act, did the person then succumb to their illness, there isn't a clear violation of the law. It's still there, it's just not super clear. Since the burdon of proof is on the accuser, and the accused is "innocent until proven guilty" under the law, and these policies that get people killed are not public documents, and therefore difficult to acquire in a way that's "admissible in court", there's a steep and stark uphill climb to meet that burdon of proof required to properly prosecute these jerkwads.

Fact of the matter is, families wronged by insurance assholes generally don't have the funds to support a long legal battle to first obtain, then submit the required evidence, and then see the case all the way through to the end against highly paid legal teams representing the insurance companies. If anyone in that position had enough money to do that, they would have long spent the money required on healing their family members before the idea of a case materializes.

What I'm saying is, only the rich assholes have the resources to fight, and because they're rich assholes, they'll never end up in a situation where they would need to fight.

Therefore, nothing will be done because nobody with the resources to do something will do anything, nor would they have reason to do anything. So the only recourse is.... Well... Exactly what happened. You can try peaceful protests and trying to push legislation, but bluntly, it would take so long to get done, if it ever got done, that anyone you hoped to help with the changes, would be long dead by the time the legislation is put in place. Bearing in mind that everyone in government would be against you on it. They're all rich assholes that either profit directly from health insurance being broken, or they know someone who benefits from it. So the chances aren't good.

What happened, especially if it becomes more of a trend, the single act that Luigi took... If people follow in those footsteps, changes will happen, and quickly, because above all, these jackoffs don't want to die. They want you to die for their profit margins to go up, but they don't want to die. Making death a real and credible risk from literally any stranger they meet on the street, will inspire them to make changes that minimize that risk. Fat lot of good the Justice system is to a corpse. Good for the family, sure, but the corpse isn't going to be any less dead after the prosecution rests.

If this becomes a very real and credible threat to their survival, one that could come from anywhere at any time, without warning.... They'll get the message really fucking fast.

IMO, we only need it to happen once more, to get there.

Yup. And I hope this is a lesson that is well learned to the front line workers of the USA. I'm sure many don't give enough of a shit to even notice, but hopefully the message is spread far and wide that this is what happens when we rat eachother out.

Do not speak to police, ever. Exercise your right to silence always. Do not help them, do not correct them when they are wrong. Do not speak to them besides informing them that you are exercising your right to remain silent.

Police are not your friend, they are a gang of armed thugs out to enforce laws put in by a system that is designed to actively work against you for the good of the 1%.

I hope that message gets to all of those that would be a rat.

The last I heard about the rat that outed Luigi was that he got doxxed, harassed, fired, and to piss on all of that, denied any compensation or reward by the pigs for being a rat. That sucks for him, but snitches get stitches.

I just want to point out that ours is the only species that we know of that can do those things.

It's pure hubris to think that we're the only ones in billions on billions of stars with potentially more than 10x that many planets in the universe that has sapience sufficient to ask the questions. Statistics says it's extremely unlikely that humans are the only sapient life in the universe.

The problem is that the first reports of what was written on the casings was wrong, and later corrections are mixed in with the original misreported text.

So there's a lot of misunderstandings about what they said.

I'm not saying my information is 100% accurate; but I'm not willing to wade through the neverending sea of news articles that care more about clicks than accuracy to figure it out.

In any case, good luck and have a good day!

The original is delay, deny, defend.

The one that was on the cartridge casing when the CEO was terminated was, delay, deny, depose.

The act of deposing a person, by one definition is to "remove from office suddenly and forcefully"

IMO, that's the meaning behind the use of "depose" here.

There's also legal depositions which are a very different thing entirely. From what I've heard, Luigi had a lot of experience with delay and deny. I dunno how much of what I've heard is true, and how much is just a game of telephone gone wrong.

Oh, I agree with much of what you say. I'm just not convinced that we as a society are valuable in any way that justifies our continued propagation.

Most of what I wrote was to qualify what I'm saying so that it's understood. I expect downvotes because I'm basically calling humans as a species, not worthy of existing. Some people who are very ego driven proud homo erectus, can definitely take offense to my statements; so down votes are generally expected.

I suppose that some downvotes would also come from those that believe that humans were created by God, under that pretense, I would be insulting their God by saying we're not worthy of existing. So yeah.

Between those two, I'm unmoved by the fact that some decided to down vote.

This can definitely be a factor. Depending on the area and other demographics.

Personally, I live in what appears to be a mostly "white" small community in a fairly rural town. Population is less than 10k. The local fast food chain closes the dining room before the drive thru here too. We're too small of a community to have undesirables, and we're 15 minutes from anywhere, and 20-30 minutes from any somewhat major city.

They still do it. The brain rot of corpos has no end.

They'll be cruel to people who need accommodation because they can. They're horrible people.

I think you're right. The prospect of being rewarded may have been enough to push them to giving up Luigi.

After the authorities apprehend him, there's every chance that they'll delay, deny, defend against giving out any kind of reward to anyone for their help in finding him.

Anyone else remember bowling for Columbine?

No?

Alright.