MysticMushroom1776

I never heard of Lemmygrad but after I saw this post I checked them out and I do not think it would be wise to federate with them. They seem terrible. They seem like they're worse than hexbear.

Oh I wasn't thinking that deeply that server admins would identify me through advanced methods I was thinking more that regular users including the trolls from fuck_AI would identify me through my behavior and the things I talk about. Since I already talked about them here.

Yeah it would be nice. Display names work well enough, but it would be better to have flairs since they can be more noticeable.

Thank you for your response. I do agree that banning people en masse can have a negative impact in how people see me, and I don't exactly like it even though I do it a lot. But I do it because at the moment Lemmy doesn't have any other options to ameliorate the mass downvoting that my AI communities receive and they would be in the high negatives by now being seen and enjoyed by no one if I didn't try to do something.

Yeah I agree with that last part, it's not good to let people see vulnerability. I don't know about having a second account I'm bad at managing two accounts especially since I don't use any fancy Lemmy apps, just the browser and my phone with a PWA thing so having more than one account would be a pain and I would probably forget. Also I feel like people would identify my alt anyway from my history here since I would still vent just as much there about the things I've already vented about. I already do try my best by not interacting much with them or simply reporting them. Though Lemmy is my only social media since I cut everything else off a while ago so it's hard to do anything beyond not responding to and simply reporting trolls.

I think it's a good idea to be able to call out bad moderation practices but I think that bellyaching and free speech entitlement needs to be culled way more aggressively to make it actually work, otherwise it'll just be filled with the worst people all the time complaining that they got banned, even though it was for more than good reasons.

It cannot be neutral, it has to have some level of bias to balance out the natural bias of moderation disproportionately affecting those who really deserve it, otherwise it'll be a majority of people who really deserve it commenting and shit-talking there, and they'll talk over a lot of the real issues and make them harder to discuss, or worse seem less credible.

Will do 👍

I try to avoid that place, it has a lot of toxic people there and most of the ones there are just upset about being banned, they don't care that it's actually for a good reason or not, they just want to be unbanned so they can do whatever they want. My comment about the reasons largely fall on deaf ears. And also since many of the people there are the people who have been brigading even if they know and understand they will double down because it's in their interest too.

Also by the way I saw your comment there and just want to clarify that I go by Ze/Zir pronouns I don't go by she/her, I tolerate it sometimes but being called by she/her gives me mild dysphoria and ickyness, so I'd prefer not to be.

Hi I'm the mod of these two communities, so I'm going to give my input on this. Basically this started back when I began before I started my first community and I noticed that other AI communities receive a surprisingly large amount of downvotes, however when I started my first community !stable_diffusion_mycology@lemmy.dbzer0.com I found that number to be much higher, and when I looked into the Voter data I found that it was being brigaded from users who moderate !fuck_ai@lemmy.world as well as very active participants there. So I made a decision that instead of allowing them to suppress and hurt my community I would ban the ones who do it so they can't hurt my community. Eventually I found that that wasn't enough because there were too many of them just waiting to take the place of banned users, so I started screening users by post history, and if they made bad faith anti-AI arguments I banned them, and yes I also used posts like the linked one as honeypots to catch other Anti-AI trolls who would complain about banning. When I began !stable_diffusion_witches@lemmy.dbzer0.com I transferred the bans from my already established community because I knew that these same people would continue at it again.

I know that these people will not block and ignore these communities on their own, they are intentionally trying to suppress it, some of them have actually admitted to doing such and saying they won't block posts. If it's considered unacceptable or against the rules to ban people in this manner then that means it's essentially impossible to fight large scale brigading and hate voting like this, which I do not think is fair for people wanting to start communities here.

In addition to simply brigading my communities I have had people harass me in DMs, make death threats towards me, and make fun of me for being a recovering alcoholic. I've had these people deny my gender identity, claim I'm a woman, deliberately use the wrong pronouns, and even one person impersonating me while acting like a pig. Really vile stuff.

In short these are not knee jerk reactions, the vast majority of the bans I cast are for good reasons, and while I have made mistakes on occasion, the majority of these bans are correct, and I don't believe we should be forced to allow known problematic users to hurt our communities just because they haven't left comments there yet.

Thank you, I will address this.

Mildly okay. I got back from a rehab retreat and I'm feeling better health wise, but not much better emotionally since the whole reason I relapsed was because I was doomscrolling and ended up getting really scared as an enby in a progressively more queerphobic world which wants to hurt me and take my rights away. It's depressing and also really scary.

Common bad faith argument from anti-AI Trolls claiming everyone who doesn't agree with them is using an LLM to write their comments or just is an LLM.

The arguments against preemptive bans feel petty and are coming from a place of someone who hasn't moderated. You're basically saying that as a mod if I see someone being a troll, or brigading, or saying (threatening) they're going to that I should just sit by and wait for them to do so. Especially when a large proportion of these trolls are willing to go above and beyond to be hurtful and spiteful.

This is what we're dealing with here:

Yeah, those dipshits outright impersonated and bullied me saying weird and gross crap like this.

So no I'm not going to sit by and watch people from the sidelines until they target me and my community and no one else should either. People want to be shitheads they should expect to find themselves banned from places they never heard of for being shitheads. Don't like it? Stop being a shithead. And yes that does include obvious forms of brigading like going to someone's profile and downvoting every comment they posted, or downvoting every post in a community, or downvoting all the comments under a post.