MossyFeathers

That's because they go the extra mile and do things like cap rent and shit. If you want to solve poverty, that's the kind of thing you have to do. The US is run on greed, which is why prices are rising faster than inflation, but wages aren't even keeping up with inflation.

No. What I'm saying is to do more than that. Why is this so fucking hard for people to understand? I feel like I'm going crazy.

In my experience, people take these things literally.

In my experience, there are people who unironically would read this and think, "oh, all we gotta do is give money and then it'll be fixed" and then get mad when it didn't work for everyone.

What am I missing here?

Edit: also,

You think that corporations raise prices in order to prevent homeless people from buying their products? What kind of crazy logic is that?

No. But they're going to hear the words, "[homeless will have] more money to spend [for necessities]" and then start salivating because they're greedy as fuck. Haven't we established that greed is the reason why prices keep getting raised?

Authorities have said Gray’s father, Colin Gray, gave him access to the semiautomatic AR-15 style rifle used in the shooting. It’s not clear how Gray brought the gun to campus or what he did with it in the two hours between school starting at 8:15 a.m. and when shots first rang out.

Colin Gray became the first parent of a school shooting suspect to be charged in Georgia, District Attorney Brad Smith said Friday. He’s accused of second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty to children for providing his son with the rifle.

Good. Why the fuck would you do that? Even if we assume it was bought before the kid started having well known mental health issues, a teenager is no where near old enough to be responsible with a gun. Even if the parents thought the teenager could be responsible, it should have been taken away and sold or something the moment he confessed he was having suicidal and/or homicidal thoughts.

Now I'm curious... I'll have to see what they are later.

~~Isn't that Stamets' instance? You might consider reaching out to him to see if he's aware. Considering how outspoken he's been about trans rights, he may not support packetcat's rhetoric.~~

Edit: no, Lemmy's tenforward is just a lemmy.world community.

Okay, and? Again, some people are gonna need more than just money. Furthermore, money doesn't help the fact that they're being overcharged for rent, food, healthcare, whatever. Give them money and the prices will just go up. You have to address the cause too.

The meme literally says,

"How do we solve poverty"

Research: give poor people money

"Maybe with cheap canned food?"

Research: no, just give them money

"I have old clothes I hate now. I bet giving them away would help!"

Research: No...

"Budget lessons!"

Research: fuck you guys.

It literally says, "no, just give them money."

The reason why I'm hung up on this is because the meme is trying to be informative and funny at the same time but imo it misses the mark because it oversimplifies the issue. It's literally saying that you just give money to poor people and poverty goes away; but that's not how that works. It may help reduce poverty, but capitalists will just raise prices again and now you're back at square one.

Edit: expanded a sentence (in bold).

Edit 3: one last edit that I'm putting at the top because I'm not sure if people are only reading part of what I've written, jumping to conclusions and then putting words into my mouth; or if I've just been very bad at conveying what I'm trying to say.

Firstly: I'm arguing from an American perspective, something I failed to specify.

Secondly: money is great, however, many people need more than money. By all means, give them money, but make sure they have other resources in case they need it. If nothing else, there are a lot of people in homelessness or poverty with serious mental health needs. Money isn't going to help if they can't afford healthcare.

Thirdly: I also failed to give examples of what I meant by, do something else too. I meant, cap rent, build public housing, ensure that people have access to food even when CEOs are renting out pineapples, etc.

Finally: the US runs on greed. Prices in the US are outstripping wages dramatically because CEOs realized they could charge more. I think the reason why giving money works in studies is because CEOs don't know who's getting the handouts; if they did, they'd absolutely try to fleece them for the assistance money. That's why doing it universally, so that CEOs know that a lot of people are getting additional money, without any other form of assistance, will just lead to people being priced out of life again.

Not sure how much I'll contribute or respond after this. I'm feeling kinda discouraged due to how many people are putting words in my mouth (it may be a misunderstanding, but it's still demoralizing).

Oh my god, I'm using fish as a metaphor for money, and teaching someone to fish as a metaphor for ensuring their ability to provide for themselves. That's what the metaphor is about. Ensuring people's ability to provide for themselves. Is that really what y'all are confused about? If you see me referring to "fish" then I'm talking about money, not food.

I'm not convinced that just cash will solve homelessness or poverty. It may help, but it seems like a "give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime" kinda situation. Give people the fish so they can eat, but if you want them to actually be independent, then you gotta make sure they have the tools they need to do so.

And you know what, maybe they just are that way, maybe they're just cursed to always be a dependent on someone. However, if that's the case then they're going to need way more help than just fish. In the meantime though, maybe treat them like human beings that are down on their luck but otherwise capable of supporting themselves. Yeah, make sure they have food, a roof over their head, water, toilets and so on, but don't stop there. That's why I'm saying this, there may be people who see your post and think that just throwing money at the problem will make it go away. It'll help, but it's not gonna fix it 100%.

Edit: I'm not sure why it's controversial to say that people need more help than just money. Personally? If I was homeless or in poverty, I'd want more than just money. Like, I'm not saying to not give people who are homeless or in poverty money, but what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't stop there.

Edit 2: I don't understand why people are so confused here. I'm not saying it won't work for some people, but there are people that it won't work for. To repeat something I said further along, in my experience, there are people who take these things literally. In my experience, there are people who would look at this meme, say, "sounds good, let's do that" and then get mad when it doesn't work for everyone.

I'm not saying that money won't help a lot of people; it would. It's just that there are people who will take this literally and believe it's the only thing you have to do.

WTF, just build an apartment out of tiny houses and make sure there are common and private areas for people to relax in. Tack two together for family apartments. You can build a really small, cheap house without removing the kitchen.

Like, okay, if they were arguing for bachelor dorms, where each person has their own bedroom but they share a common area with showers, bathrooms and kitchens, then okay. But that's not gonna work for couples, they're gonna at least want their own bathroom; and families with children? Forget it. They're gonna want their own kitchen and bathroom so they don't have to wander out into a common area in the middle of the night in their underwear because their baby wants milk and won't stop screaming if it doesn't get warm milk.

Harvester vibes from this one.

Not a parent, though personally, I sometimes like watching online drama because of how unhinged and nonsensical it can get. However, the real fun stuff is when twitch streamers have collabs and know each others running gags or strange quirks. They're almost always unscripted and can result in the weirdest conversations and situations I've ever heard. The kind of conversations that end up being hilarious and I want to share them with someone but then I realize they need 2hrs of context to understand why it's so funny. Like chips for dinner, Rev stabbed a guy, or Jerma being a fucking psycho.