Mirodir

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[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If House has taught me anything, it's D, but then E.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are quite a few other roguelike (or roguelike adjacient) games that do beat it handily. To give a few examples:

DF started development in October 2002 (according to their own website, scroll all the way down.)

UnReal World's first release was in 1992 and is also still getting regular updates.

NetHack has gotten new versions ever since 1987. The latest big change was 3.6.0 in 2015, 3.6.7 came out in early 2023 but there's no reason to believe there won't be a next version. If we count that in 1987 it started as a fork of Hack, we could even add another 3 years in the front as Hack was published in 1984.

Edit: I just realized: In the world of MMORPGs we also have a few examples: Everquest which came out in 2000 and is still getting expansions. Even WoW isn't too far behind with a 2004 release date, which probably means development began before DF's development too.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On MAL and temporarily, yes. From memory, I can think of two anime that were temporarily ahead of FMA:B.

Kaguya-sama's third season was ahead of FMA:B when it was airing in 2022. It now sits on 12th with a score of 9.02.

Pingu in the City was memed to #1 shortly before its first episode aired in 2017. It now chills in the mid-tier with a score of 6.52 on 6596th.

However, I think Kaguya was only barely ahead of FMA:B at its peak. Meanwhile Frieren is at 9.18 currently while FMA:B in 2nd place is on 9.09. That is a full 0.09 lead, which is over 10% of the way from FMA:B to a theoretical clean 10.0.
Another way to put the lead into context is by doing the next 0.09 step down from FMA:B, which lands us cleanly at 9.00. An anime with a score of 9.00 would be at 13th, between Kaguya-sama 3 (9.02) and Fruits Basket: The Final (8.98).

Edit: With the final episode done, it's now sitting at 9.34. I will assume it's gonna drop a bit again over time, this is still an absolutely insane score. 27% of the way between FMAB and perfect 10.0. Going from 9.34 is now a 0.25 step down to FMAB, the next 0.25 step would be down to 8.84, which would be a tie with Kimi no Na wa at 28th.

I can only repeat again how mindblowing this is. The difference between Frieren and FMAB is the same as the one between FMAB and Kimi no Na wa. And that is ignoring how much harder every 0.01 gets the closer you get to 10.0.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I definitely paid with some time investment, but you bet I wrote a short script to automate toggling that rule on/off. It's also not like I had to run that script every time I wanted to play a game. Only to play a game in my brother's library while he was playing something else or when I wanted to play one of my games and he was already in one.

Summing up the time investment vs. the cost of games, and using a time-money conversion rate that assumes I had a well paying job in my field and wasn't still a student, it was definitely profitable.

You're definitely right on the frustration front though: I bought many games just to not have to deal with this. It was mostly used for games one of us was on the fence about. Or (like in the Outlast case) only one of us really wanting to play a game and the other just playing along because playing together is fun no matter the game.
Now, in the former case, it might be back to sailing the seas.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think people are more negative than positive about this change. The old system allowed for far more freedom at the cost of being more annoying to set up.
This change cracks down on anyone who used the old system in unintended ways, i.e. to share games with family members not living in the same household. For now that check only compares store region/country, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tighten the requirements further in the future.

It's also a negative compared to the old system if one of your (adult) family members throws a huge tantrum, allowing them to cause a lot more damage and inconvenience than before.

Edit: I just wanna mention, I am saying this as someone who is usually "RiDiNg sTeAm’S DiCK".

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Because it's a cat.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Simply blocking steam in your local firewall was enough with the old system, if the last thing the account saw was the library being open to play on or being the owner of the game.

There are a lot of weird, convoluted tricks you could do with the old system to get around most of the issues. For example: I've recently managed to play Outlast: Trials with my brother despite only one of us owning it by turning on the firewall between sending the invite and accepting it and then accepting the invite and launching the game before the invite receiving account (who has to be the owner of the game) sees the invite sending account as offline.

We've discovered this firewall trick relatively soon after Valve fixed the offline mode "exploit", but we never shared it publically so it wouldn't get fixed too. I have seen a few people talk about it over the years though.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Even worse, a VAC ban in your game will probably transfer to your account in general. You won't only be affected in that game, but in any games that check your VAC status.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure this was already the case in some games before, depending on the netcode of the game.

The old FAQ said:

What if a borrower is caught cheating or committing fraud while playing my shared games? Your Family Sharing privileges may be revoked and your account may also be VAC banned if a borrower cheats or commits fraud. In addition, not all VAC protected games are shareable. We recommend you only authorize familiar Steam Accounts and familiar computers you know to be secure. And as always, never give your password to anyone.

If it's a game with VAC it probably always worked as described above, but for example: People in Fall Guys did use this trick to avoid getting banned for cheating until they turned off Family Share for Fall Guys shortly after release.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

The one year period of waiting after leaving one seems excessive.

It's slightly better than that for the person who leaves. It's a one year period starting the moment they joined the previous one. So if you've been part of a family for 1+ years you can join/create a new one right away.

The slot you occupied however does stay locked for an additional year.

I also have my current setup with found family and as I live close to a country border I cannot switch over properly as I have members on both sides of the border. I understand their intent is "same household", so I do understand why this is the case, still sucks for me though.

I hope they have good separation of the logical family and the physical pc’s, It’s really annoying to resetup stuff with my partner every time one of us installs a different linux distro.

After toying around in the beta, this seems to not be an issue anymore as they seem to actually go off accounts now and not hardware anymore. It was quite frustrating in the old system though.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Assuming it is store country that is checked: Simply VPN-ing doesn't change that. Instead you have to make a purchase in the new place with "a payment method from the region you have moved to". From experience this locks your account to the new region for 3 months. What would be interesting to know is if you can be in a family and then change regions afterwards without getting auto-kicked.

Needless to say, my experiments ended at trying to see if they have any kinds of restrictions in place (unlike for the original family share) and I don't wanna buy a throwaway game and lock an account into a different region for 3 months just for shits and giggles.

[–] Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I experimented around with it in the beta out of curiosity.

Failed to accept the family invite. Your account must be in the same country as all current family members.

I'm assuming this is based on account region (i.e. purchase region) and not IP.

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