MapleEngineer

Aye, there's the rub.

One person with a CCW dies. Every time.

If a bunch of people go up against the government a whole bunch of people die but maybe change happens.

Remember January 6? A whole bunch of people with violent intent invaded the capital baying for blood then a bullet ripped through Ashli Babbitt's chest and she fell to the ground dead. Everyone else thought, "Holy fuck! They're shooting white people!" and it was over.

EDIT: Downvotes against ideas you don't like on Lemmy are just about as effective as your AR-15 is going to be against an armored Humvee mounted with a minigun but by all means, keep up the good fight.

That's quite a strawman you've created in your own mind.

Can you point to anywhere at all that I said that someone could have a gun or not? Anywhere?

What I asked was, what are you afraid of? I also pointed out that owning a gun makes you more likely to die by gun violence and that you are far more likely to kill a loved one than ever have a situation where you can use your gun against the violent criminal or corrupt government agent that many fantasize about shooting.

I own guns. I don't care if you own guns. I just wonder if you can admit to yourself that you carry because you're afraid and acknowledge that you will die if you use the gun against the government and that having a gun makes it far more likely that you'll kill yourself or someone you love than ever use it in the violent scenarios you've created in your head.

I have a friend, three tours of duty as an infnatryman in Northern Ireland during thr troubles, two tours of duty as a combat medic in Bosnia, and worked as a paramedic then a police marksman in Canada. He says, "It's all fun and games until you're on a two way range." It's easy to imagine fighting back against the poilce and military but the reality is that they very rarely go down and the people shooting at them very rarely survive. The second ammendment was written in a time when the people and the military used muzzle loaders. All the second ammendment fantasies in the world don't change the fact that one person or a few people up against the police or the military is/are going to die very quickly and very thoroughly. But, by all means, hang on to that thought.

If you get run over by a car while crossing the street it doesn't battery if you had the right of way, you're still dead.

Dead is dead.

That is a valid fear but pulling out a gun and shooting those masked men will get you killed.

Nagaram said that they were afraid and why. Their fears were valid. It's got to be very stressful for Nagaram to be in that situation, doesn't it? I'm sorry that Nagaram is in that situation that makes them afraid.

I'm not being condescending to Nagaram, I have empathy for their situation.

Why are you being so defensive about your fear?

I'm sorry that you're afraid it's got to be very stressful.

And when the gun comes out you are many times more likely to be killed. You have been fed a lie about defending yourself by the gun lobby to seek more guns and make rich people richer. Guns kill many times more people than they save in the US you are far more likely to kill someone you love than you are to ever use your gun to defend yourself.

SOURCE: 25 years in guns and badges.

That is fair.

Your argument, if it is made in good faith, is not directly related to the post or the original comment. It is a distraction from the point of the comment which is that the Christians who go on an on about lizard people (anti-Semitic trope) and drag queens and gays abusing children are regularly exposed as the ones who are actually abusing children. The post and comment have nothing to do with other religions which absolutely have issues with abuse of children but it is absolutely whataboutism and likely intended to distract from the point of the post and the comment which is that this "save the children" christofascist was a pedophile like so many other christofascists, see Matt Gaetz, Donald Trump, and so many more.

Whataboutism. Stop whinging about being called out for it.

I've had guns pointed at me. I deescalated the situation and walked away. Try doing that by putting your hand on your gun.

That's a good plan.