Lyre

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[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

..... Bro where were you yesterday?? Hahaha we've started a whole philosophy debate now uuuuuuughhhhh

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

Thats really easy to say in hindsight, in a world where almost all the sources are roman. But imagine you could go back in time, do you think your argument would be very compelling to people being subjected by romans?

Not to mention how doubtful it is that every single tribe and nation conquered by Rome somehow ended up bountiful and happy like some history enthusiasts would have you believe.

Theres also the question of whether these people could have made said advancements on their own, or through peaceful trade and exchange of ideas. Personally, i think they probably could have.

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

Hmm, personally I dont think you can so casually brush off the conquest part. How many people would you accept being murdered, raped, and enlaved in order to justify this positive benifit? Is there a specific number? If the supposed benifit was greater, would you accept more people being killed? How big does a benefit to future generations need to be to justify killing and enslaving the current population?

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (27 children)

Raises interesting philosophical questions i guess. Is an action taken with the intention of exploitation that unintentionally ends up being beneficial ultimately a good action?

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They were famed for their metalwork, poetry, art, and horsemanship. But i suppose if one's metric for cultural worth is aqueducts per square kilometer then ya i guess they needed to be conquered.

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (36 children)

You... You responded to the wrong comment my guy

Edit: No actually I'll take this one. Do you seriously think romans invented roads and aquaducts? They didn't. Or are suggesting Romans were some kind of benevolent force bestowing these technologies for free? Because that wasn't the case either.

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago (38 children)

Brittain before Roman rule was probably even happier. But i guess when you're the conquering army you get to decide what is and isnt "civilized"

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ya and if memory serves i think he clawed his own eyes out and committed suicide after finding out.

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Hey no worries dude, thanks for considering how I'd feel.

If it matters, i wasn't trying to be rude on my original comment either. I was genuinely asking the question. Its tough to convey tone online...

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I looked it up, a cycle refers to disconnected body of works that cover the same event such as the siege of Troy. A series refers to a linear body of works that cover different events, such as Dune and most other modern books.

So ya everyone downvoting me is straight up wrong. The op was wrong, and also I was wrong. Go figure.

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