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Who said it was a random person?

I supposed it. Probably because I would not call them 'someone' if I knew them. I would call them if not by their name, at least in some distinctive manner: my spouse, my parents, brother, sister, aunt, neighbours, friends, colleagues, whatever that would make them be more specific than just someone. I may be wrong, indeed.

But I should have it made clearer that I would also not care much, I mean I would not be upset or worry or whatever, if anyone I know was suddenly to decide they don't like me. Except from one person, my spouse.

I am old enough to have seen a lot of people come and go out of my live, and me go in and out from theirs. That's fine.

If anyone I know or I am in contact with was to tell me they don't like me, I would...

1. First, I would try to think why they wanted to say that to me since it's very... not friendly and very much not the way adult people are supposed to behave when meeting one another.
2. Then, if I can't find anything I have done wrong that would explain their feeling towards me (and that should be something I would want to change too), like suggested, I would move on. Having already considered what I may have done wrong and supposedly found nothing or nothing that I would want to change if I could, why should I waste more of my time about someone's else feelings toward me?

We would probably see a lot less, if at all, since I don't need many people around me to feel ok and since I don't see any reason to impose myself where I'm not wanted. That's the most likely thing to happen, that and me making a note of it in my journal if I think it's worth noting.

Edit: typos.

This.

Why should I care about someone, some random person's opinion?

If you’re trying to sell art, it’s pretty fucking literal. Jesus!

If you say so. You seem to be a literal expert.

Alas, I don't have any Jesus or whomever to add as an exclamation mark my reply. Probably because I'm not the religious kind and if I was I would certainly not use my god as a mere punctuation mark, woudl I? So, instead, allow me to punctuate my reply with a 'Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!'

Physical art. (Not digital.) What sells? What is truly appreciated?

Pretty fucking literal, were you saying? Mmm, I reckon you're fucking right. Good luck.

Physical art. (Not digital.) What sells? What is truly appreciated?

The question lacks context, imho.

The only answer I can propose is: whatever you can make that will appeal to people enough for them to be willing to buy it, if you're creating a unique piece of art. Painting, sketch, sculpture, collage, and so on. I very recently read somoene sold a banana taped onto a sheet of paper for a very large sum of money. A little over a century ago, Marcel Duchamp exposed a urinal, how much is it worth today? So, really, anything can sell and can be appreciated as art.

Also, if you're creating 'reproductible' physical art pieces (say a recording or some printed stuff, or whatever), I would say anything that can make some buzz and gather enough people around it.

The sales numbers are a pretty objective measure, actually.

Not really. Depends what you sell. I'd much rather sell a single painting of Van Gogh than 10.000 books (which would be considered excellent numbers by many publishers) about the same Van Gogh.

I liked the lapsus too. Maybe some scene with something Lenny/Lemmy-related could be worth a drawing? ;)

Thx. Agreed. And yes, we all know why it is a thing.

When I answered to Chico Suave's slightly less amiable comment I wanted to share a few links to what I consider interesting reads. Then I read your comment and thought maybe they would be read with a lot less hostility if I shared them here.

They're in no order of importance and they're a bit redundant too (there were many more, hopefully anyone will find one more exciting to read) and they may help better understand my opinion on tourism in general (and their photographic laziness in particular). It may also be worth saying that we do our best to put our money where our mouth is as, both my spouse and I, we decided some 25 years ago to quit traveling by plane to fancy places (at the time we realized the ecological crisis that was to come and because it suddenly seemed to us an inexcusable waste of energy just to satisfy our mere 'leisure' needs), and soon after that we also quit flying for work. No revolution mind you, and no 'no fun allowed' either, we made all our 'touristic' activities local and all our work travels/meetings virtual.

So if anyone is interested, about tourism (there are others, I simply grabbed the first few not obviously AI-written results I could find):

• https://fstoppers.com/landscapes/are-tourism-and-photographers-ruining-photography-195445
• https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/aug/17/wish-you-werent-here-how-tourists-are-ruining-the-worlds-greatest-destinations
• https://www.treehugger.com/travel-destinations-being-ruined-by-tourism-4868960
• https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/is-tourism-destroying-the-world

And if anyone is interested in trying to make...less touristic images (not that I'm a pro myself, far from it but isn't it exciting to try to do better?) a few quick/easy suggestions:

• https://www.digitalphotomentor.com/tips-travel-photos-crowded-locations/
• https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/tips-quickly-improve-photos/
• https://blog.depositphotos.com/back-to-basics-10-composition-rules-in-photography.html
• https://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/10-top-photography-composition-rules
• https://www.capturelandscapes.com/7-things-you-can-do-to-make-your-images-look-better-today/ (#7 may be interesting, in the context of our discussion)

Spend money (waste fuel, and worse: waste precious time) to go to touristic places so they can take the exact same picture/video everyone else has taken, and share it on the exact same social networks everyone else has done. Why not just buy a postcard or repost a photo already shared. Why not, you know, look around and suddenly realize there are many other things worth looking at... things that may not even be that remote from where they live.

For me, that's one of the most extreme demonstration of generalized craziness, if not worse. Or maybe it's just me who's crazy (or worse)?

Edit: added a missing word.

I pay for three subs:

• For my spouse and I, two 15€/m, 200GB, unlimited SMS/calls. Without yearly contract.
• 35/m for fibre Internet, unlimited + a landline (we don't use) + TV (we don't have one) ;)

This reminds me I wanted to look for cheaper alternatives since neither my spouse and I use data much on our phones. I subscribed to those at a time we had a lot of issue with our fibre Internet so we could still work using our phones as hotspots... and I forgot about it :/

Dans les deux cas, on finira par les manger. Tout va bien.