Well, then I'm sorry but my suggestion is useless. I don't know what to tell you. We're old getting older (at 50+ I feel like a legit wreck, but I'm still in better shape than in my 30s: I mean my body is wrinkled everywhere, I'm bald like an eggshell and I have many health issues but I was a legit junkie back then and I was barely able to do any of the things I can do nowadays)
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You're welcome.
I wanted to bring a different point of view as I'm not a huge fan of over-simplification with such a complex question (no matter what I may or may not think about religions)
+1 because I see no reason for the downvotes, beside some people not liking what you say or think? To those persons: feel free to downvote me to oblivion if it helps you feel better and much 'righter' persons but do keep in mind that it may also not be the most efficient way to help me understand in what way you think I'm mistaken. Obviously, this matter only if you want to help me understand, not if you want to 'punish' me for disagreeing with you. But then, I would wonder in what way that is supposed to punish me? Have a nice day, whatever you decide.
Idk how you take that and say who’s to say if one’s better than the other. (...) hat’s what good parents who are religious should be doing.
On a more general note, may I advise you to be more cautious with your use of certain words. I mean, 'good parents' is a very strong expression nobody should use solely based on a first impression, a few words read, and certainly not as a way to demonstrate a point in a discussion because... doing so you're only projecting your own personal values and ideals regarding what good parents should do (which could be 100% correct, or not, that’s not the point) and, well, in that specific case I can assure you you do not know who my parents were. Or if they were any good.
I will tell you they looked real nice people and most people meeting them liked them a lot. I will also tell you they're long gone and that I did not shed a single tear when they passed away. What does that say about them and what does that say about me? Maybe that's telling what an ungrateful asshole I'm, and I may very well be that. Or maybe it's telling how appearance can be misleading and how much better and how much more intimately I knew my parents than anybody else. Who am I to tell?
Your story unironically proves that atheist parents are far and away better parents than religious ones. Idk how you take that and say who’s to say if one’s better than the other. (...) hat’s what good parents who are religious should be doing. Not teaching their children to do exactly as they do.
I think it unironically shows what you believe in, which is fine by me and which is something I may even 100% agree with. That’s not the point.
My point was only this: my atheist parents (so you know: they both were sent to a religious school as kids too. Therefore, they did with me exactly like their parents did with them save that their own parents did not call themselves atheists) forced their own personal opinions onto me, without me being given any real choice.
My point was that the question should not be limited to spiritual or religious matters. And also being religious does not make someone an asshole more nor less than being an atheist would make them an asshole. It’s the person that’s the issue.
Then, I went back to the OP question, saying this was an interesting and very old question with no simple answer, referring to that Plato dude writing about raising children somewhere in the 4th or 3rd century before that other dude, Jesus, was even born. Why mentioning Plato? Maybe because that bearded Greek dude wearing a dress and sandals realized that families in his time were already pushing what he considered way too much personal values and crap, not just religious craps, onto their own child and that the only crap a child should be fed is the crap that the city (aka the Nation) has deemed good for… the city? I would encourage anyone to go read Plato.
So, where does that leave us?
We will all agree that thinking they hold onto some indisputable truth will concern many religious persons, right? Where I seemingly disagree with a few around here, is that I also think it concerns way too many so-called atheists who I think would be much more accurately described as 'anti-religious' (because 'a-theism' is the idea that there is no god, not that one should hate on god or religion). So, unlike those anti-religious persons, I don't consider what they call atheism as a de facto smarter/better choice than being 'theist', or religious. That’s way too simple… like I was saying.
think: Ancient Rome,
As far as I know, Ancient Rome (pre-christian) welcomed many and very different faiths.
One could be surprised ;)
Not wanting to put down their phone would rank high for me those days, even higher than smoking (which stinks and I know that for a fact, I was a smoker some 20 years ago ;)
Body starts aging at around 20 if I recall correctly.
Doctors said I’m fine btw.
One thing you might want to do is see another doctor and get another opinion of your physical condition? I almost lost my eyesight because of an incomp, I mean, with a doctor that was not that well informed. Had I not decided to check with another doctor...
Yep, like one of them said trust will be hard to restore.
That Trump is a diva addicted to having a tantrum we knew it, that's no surprise and I could not care less him being... who he is. But to realize how simple and effort-less it was for him to break existing deals, engagements and decades long alliances while also humiliating Zelensky in the oval office, on TV, without anyone, no one of the other US political powers supposed to prevent abuse of power even protest? And then hear Trump tell all of us we could go fuck ourselves if we did not agree to pay him whatever amount of money he considered fair, like some gangster trying to racket shop owners on the block, in exchange for his 'protection'? That's the real issue. At least, it's for me.
I trusted such an absurd thing would not be possible in the USA, not as easily and not as abruptly. I was completely wrong.
Trust won't be easy to get back.
Could not tell as I have not looked at Lego at all for decades, but prices have been getting delirious with quite many things in the last few years.
I can't resist mentioning your fellow (or should I say foe?) blood takers community, !vampires@lemmy.zip
Sorry (partly, at least) for my silly humor, and welcome :)
I did not know that. I had the idea they were from the UK.
Btw, Lego is Danish. Or has that changed and the company been sold? I have not played with Lego for 50 years or so, I may be a bit rusty ;)
Edit: There were the Christians, a little later on. But I wouldn't know that all religions would be polytheist back then except Jews. I'm really not an expert.
It sure can be. But, talking irrational beliefs, wouldn't you agree that telling a child they're a unique and amazing person and that all they do is perfect and amazing too, that they should not have to get bad grades at school because it's infuriating, that they should not have to do their homework because it's tiresome, that they should be allowed to do whatever they fancy the moment they fancy doing it, is also like playing with fire? Still, despite it containing not a single mention of god, religion or spiritual beliefs it's something hordes of parents are telling their own kids every single day.
I do sincerely wonder what will do more harm to those kids but, once again, I'm not pro religion nor am I against it. I'm only pro taking nothing for granted—beginning with our very own certainties if they can't be demonstrated ;)