I use Plasma 6 on Wayland on devices as old as 2009 and as new as 2020. Apple laptops to Intel desktops with GPUs from Intel, AMD, and NVIDIA.
Wayland is better than Xorg on every machine I run.
LeFantome
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I can absolutely deny that Wayland has stability issues. Plasma 6 under Wayland is the most stable desktop I have used.
In any Wayland discussion, I think people using Debian or older NVIDIA drivers (pre-555 for sure) need to identify themselves. They seem to be the ones most convinced that Wayland does not work yet (because they are still experiencing what it was like years ago).
As for “support”, that is desktop environment dependent as it mostly depends on protocol and XDG desktop portal maturity. KDE has the most complete support (not a bias-just a fact), then GNOME, then Hyprland and the Wlroots based environments, with MATE and Cinnamon not quite there yet, and XFCE totally trailing.
Ah, I see that you have already seen the fork.
You also use the portal helper from another DE though.
For example, the Niri Wayland compositor, written in Rust with Smithay, uses xdg-desktop-portal-gnome (which I imagine is written in C).
Me too. I am already enjoying the discounted Intel laptops. They will really come down when macOS 27 comes out and OpenCore Legacy Patcher stops working on them.
There should certainly be some good desktop deals this Christmas for sure.
Do you have a spare SSD? Throw Linux on it and try it out for a while. You can always go back.
Who told you that?
How do you propose to do that?
Let’s say there are 2 billion desktop computers in the world and that Linux is installed on 3% of them.
That is 60 million Linux desktop users.
That is more than enough to sustain a vibrant ecosystem. Linux does not really need more market share to keep being an excellent option.
What happened to the Internet? Reasonable people everywhere.
Yes, I think that the skepticism towards systemd was deserved even if we have to acknowledge that it also brought improvements in some areas.
I also concede that actively supporting a distro like Debian is important for the role they play in the ecosystem, regardless of the software overlap with other distros.
I too was oversimplifying obviously.
Thank you for the reply.
It is a matter of emphasis I think. Do not imply that they will have to switch.
I think it is important to say that there is software for every use case on Linux. Because, while all know the few cases that are "less" well covered, it is absolutely true these days that, no matter what you want to do, you can do it on Linux. In many cases, the apps you use today are available on Linux too. Emphasize this first for people who are just forming an idea of Linux in their mind and maybe wondering if it could work for them.
After you have done the above, be honest that, not all the same applications are available. It is common that Windows users moving to Linux will have to find alternatives for some of the applications they used on Windows. Do not hide from it. But don't lead with it either.
Finally, it is ok to mention that "in some cases", Windows applications can be used on Linux through emulation. I would give a huge "for example" many Windows games work on Linux SteamOS and Proton. Maybe link to the list. However, how likely this is to work varies from application to application. For most software, it is better to find native alternatives.
Well, Niri is a dynamic and scrolling tiling compositor. So it offers that.
Well, and Niri supports Wayland.