LeFantome

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You completely missed the point being made.

Wayland is what new users start on. And Wayland works for most users. In fact, for these users, it works better than Xorg.

So nobody is going to switch to Xorg. The only people using it will be the few that have not switched to Wayland. And, as the applications go Wayland only, that will become a very short list.

It is mot Wayland that has to prove itself. X11 is not winning the battle for new users, or even old ones.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

These “Wayland will never come” articles completely ignore the fact that Wayland is here and has already won.

There are lots of issues with Wayland. They will be fixed, but if this was simply a list of things still needing to be improved, it would be useful.

But most Linux desktop users use Wayland already. It will be 90% in 2-3 years. With the exception of Mint, the big Linux distros already install to Linux by default. So almost every new Linux user starts on Wayland. Few will ever try X11. And if they did, the list of broken and impaired experiences on X11 will bring most back to Wayland.

It really does not matter if every x11 user switches to Wayland. The ecosystem does not need them.

But very few of even the hard core adherents will use an X server 5 years from now. Most normal users will not even use Xwayland. And the simple reason is applications.

Everyday there are more and more apps that are Wayland only. Before 2030, that list will include all GNOME and most GTK apps. Are people really going to give up all these applications because of some obscure advantage they perceive in X11?

Most the the faults the article cites are exaggerated or historical. But it is not worth arguing over the details. Wayland is the future. But it is already the present. It is sad really that the people writing these articles do not realize that they are already in the minority and have already been left behind.

This is a “Linux will never be ready for all UNIX users” article written in 1998. It is both true and irrelevant.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

What they are aiming for (not agreeing, just explaining) is a language that you can use to ask AI to do things for you.

The idea is that you do not have to do the nuts and bolts programming (the AI will do that) but at the same time you have more deterministic control over what the AI does.

So “higher level” than our highest level languages now.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

They need to call it COBOL. A language regular business people can use!

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

I think that Red Hat porting a Red Hat tool is likely to be remembered. Clearly the intent is to ship and migrate to the new tool (in Fedora and in RHEL) and probably to stop shipping the old tool at the same time.

I fail to see how it is going to be forgotten.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How is a guy playing to 100 people in a field for free getting this much national press?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Nutlick can lick my …..

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you want to see how Quebec will fair as a US state, just visit Louisiana.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

No problem. Not even feeding Reddit.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

I would rather limit voting to between the ages of 20 and 60.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fork server - eliminates the need to restart and reduces memory per new process

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1609882

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Where are you? Ladner, BC blueberries are the best in the world.

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