Kichae

We're all aware that This Hour Has 22 Minutes is satire, yeah?

Friendica is very, very, very good. It's just that most people aren't looking for something that looks like pre-IPO Facebook for some reason.

Personally, I think they should be, but nobody ever listens to me.

Because among the users it does have are some of the most influential people in the world.

Like, the US Senate's pretty small, too, but people from the world over have to pay attention to its members.

Federation keeps breaking. Supposedly it's working again in the latest Lemmy release, but most hosts are not up to date yet.

Pixelfed isn't empty. Where are you using it?

Mastodon has a supermajority of users and traffic, and Pixelfed works seemlessly with Mastodon, which is why it's a focus. Twitter and Instagram are the normie platforms, and Fake Twitter + Fake Instagram is something that they would find appealing if the embedded Mastodon userbase wasn't littered with actors hostile to Twitter and Instagram users taking over the space.

"Like DNS" there is an analogy. And DNS is actually a distributed system.

Imagine if every web DNS had to go through Facebook. That's how all of the ATproto traffic works. It's all funneled through Bluesky's servers.

It does nothing. Verification is only important in general for public individuals, anyway. Public officials, celebrities, etc. Those people have the means to do it. They also have the means to host their own instance on their own domain, or on a government domain, which is even better verification of identity.

But most of us do not need to give a damn.

Mine warn me only when it's purposeful. As you say, if I change output devices, and the sound is too loud, it says nothing. It literally only interferes with me doing something I'm purposefully choosing to do, and failing to protect me from shit I'm doing accidentally.

Ok, fine. It's about the economics of the bandwagon, I guess.

If I said the same thing you said, it was because what you said wasn't clear. Maybe you should have akshually used more words.

Well, for one, the integration isn't seamless. There are tons of seams, and people whine endlessly about them. "I can't find anybody taling about X,Y, or Z!" "The follow counts are different!" "Other people are seeing different replies!" "How dare you defeserate from that other website, even though it's ummoderated and its users kepe violating the rules here?"

The subscription model requires you to know about things happening elsewhere and then go out of your way to subscribe to it. ActivityPub servers are not passively finding other servers, new groups, or new people. If someone on your local server hasn't already done the "enter the url into the search bar" dance, there's nothing to see. Federation is a perk of the system, not the core feature.

For another, scaling a distributed, federated model where everyone is most active talking to people everywhere else works very poorly. Feseration works by requesting and then locally storing copies of remote posts. Every remote communication you make increases the storage and bandwith costs of your post by a factor of the number of remote servers are subscribed to it. The whole experiment breaks down amd totally destroys smaller instances if everybody jumps on the fediverse and treats it as a global-first platform, and that really kills the whole decentralization thing.

It all works best if most of our communication happens locally; if we find servers hosting the people we want to engage with the most, and join them there, and then use federation to engage with the people we're less focused on.

Treating the fediverse like modern, centralized social media, but just without the fear of billionaires, is treating screws as if they were nails. They may look similar, and they may serve similar functions, but they operate totally differently, and trying to use them in the exact same ways is going to ruin your project.

Do you consider email to be local first.

Do you consider this to be email?

Decentralization is inherently inefficient. Efficiency is a double-edged sword, though. One which our modern, business focused culture actively tries to ignore the self-facing blade of.

Yeah, exactly. We've been running on "personal responsibility" as the core ethic of society for 50 years now, and, uh... I mean, it hasn't worked out here, I'm not sure why anyone would believe that it'll work for 10 year olds.