Kichae

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's not pointing out a courtesy, it's making a demand on a strangers to behave how you want because you want to believe you're entitled to a safe space in public

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Mastodon servers are separate entities, too. The fact that they communicate with each other doesn't change that, and the persistent desire that folks here have to imagine otherwise is a hurdle to adoption.

The mental model is of a central space that instances grant or bar access to, but that's simply not how the technology actually works. Too much effort has gone into trying to make ActivityPub-enabled websites look like something they're not (centralized social media), while totally ignoring what they are: small forums and microblogs that have optional access to other forums and microblogs.

Mastodon is web server software. "Mastodon" doesn't exist. It's an illusion. And the fact that everyone keeps trying to sell this illusion is exactly why there are all of these broken expectations and hurdles.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago (10 children)

I think you wildly misunderstand the average person's motivations and how they weigh decisions.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

This shouldn't be a surprise. Public figures tend to not know how things work, and politicians tend to be optimistic about things that big businesses are spending a lot of money on.

AI sounds great in an elevator pitch, and that's all most politicians and execuitive-level business folks are working with. And they're all very susceptible to "everyone else is doing it" type arguments.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 49 points 6 months ago

we're forged by endless zero-stakes fights built explicitly to be in our favour

just didn't have the same ring to it, I guess

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The server selection problem goes away if people stop treating their hosting website as an after thought or dumb terminal. People really have to stop promoting web server software as if it's a platform, and start finding reasons to recommend actual websites to people.

Ain't nobody ever recommended phpBB to anyone who wasn't looking to host a forum.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You have misread their comment and understood it backwards. AP's saying people on Mastodon are engaging in Lemmy discussions.

There is no way to follow Mastodon users from Lemmy. Lemmy simply does not work that way.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You could spin one up this evening if you wanted. Or go use catodon.social.

That's not the point. The point is, there are reasons Mastodon is being rejected, just like there are reasons you seemingly cannot pay people to use a Misskey-based or Hubzilla-based website.

It's not where the people are going, and the public or semi-public figures are going to follow the people.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Open source options exist. We just need more people using OpenStreetMaps and shit.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. The ones holding the cables started shouting Stop Talking to Each Other and Start Buying Things. And when that worked, they figured out how to make us stop talking and start buying.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why switch to Mastodon when there is Misskey?

Why use Misskey when there is Hubzilla?

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