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Minigolf and driving ranges can stay. Death to golf courses.

They will be rehabilitated through labor in the poetry mines

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You just described c/chapotraphouse3

You would have to be really dumb

soldiers

I appreciate the kind words. I’m a little intoxicated from vibing with comrades at the bar, so we’ll see how this post goes.

Curious what you fully mean here, like basically everyone wants to be on the seal teams or a pilot versus a ship officer? I can't imagine folks would want to be a submarine officer either.

Submariners get incentive pay, which some people think makes it worth it (not me, but I’m tall). But, to step into the nationalist militarist mindset: submarines: WW3 :: aircraft carriers: WW2. Submariners describe the situation as (picture a polface soyfacing while pointing) “there’s two kinds of ships: submarines and targets.” The upside of naval combat is that you don’t get up close and personal, and the downside is it’s dehumanized.

But, yes, everyone wants to be something special. Everyone who isn’t a big standard SWO (surface warfare officer) gets some kind of incentive pay, and being on a surface ship is long hours of boring tedium, and all the officers are dicks.

I don't remember this when did this happen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hartford_and_USS_New_Orleans_collision?wprov=sfti1

I would love to answer any more questions.

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More like delirium tremens

Sorry if the following is too stream of consciousness:

Much to my present embarrassment, in a previous life, I was in the imperial navy. I am very unsurprised at how many times they fuck up. The whole organization is rotten, with unaccountable toxic leadership at the top, middle, and lower management levels, but especially the surface navy. No officer candidates want to be a Surface Warfare Officer, partly for the glory of being a pilot or running death squads but mostly due to the toxic reputation, so they dump all the fuck-ups in the surface community and compound the problem.

The navy, specifically the surface navy, is the last biggest holdout of aristocrat simping. The officers eat separately from the crew, on fine china and real silverware (I know, I had to polish them), while the crew eats worse food on those segmented plastic trays you see in schools and prisons ( ), and they’re the first ones effected when food starts to run out.

Worst is the “Chief’s Mess,” or senior enlisted (E7-E9). They are a prime example of the rot. For decades, they’ve been derided as out of shape alcoholics with multiple DUI’s and divorces who keep their workers on the ship as long as possible so they don’t have to go home to see their own families.

7th Fleet, based out of Japan (Yokosuka and Sasebo), has the worst reputation out of all of the US fleet forces. Operational Tempo is high, with sailors spending at least 50% (but usually 75%+) of their time underway, and working hours in port are always long. That results in a culture of heavy drinking which, coupled with white supremacist imperialist propaganda dehumanizing the locals, leads to “Liberty Incidents” (“liberty” referring to time off work) where sailors assault locals. Instead of dealing with the root problems, the tactic has been further curtailing the already limited “liberty” hours. In ~2018, married sailors living off base had to submit written request in advance to go out to dinner with their spouse/family. Instead of solving the white supremacy problem, which would undermine the overall imperial project, or the self-imposed problems of high optempo with low manning, this just exacerbates everything.

Turning now to the most relevant bit:

In the 1990’s, the US decided it was going to run the military like a business. The navy came up with a genius idea: “Optimal Manning,” where they figured you could do more work with less people if you just forced it on them. It’s been like 25 years and they still haven’t recovered. It turns out that people need to sleep to function properly. Sleep deprivation is like being drunk regarding things like reaction time and staying awake, so you have all of these multimillion dollar ships (or over a billion for the carriers) being driven around by disgruntled, sleep deprived people who are just counting down the days until they get out. It’s no wonder that they can’t stop running into shallows and sea mounts.

The only people involved who are shocked are those at the top whose fault it is.

Also, they’ve surfaced a sub under their own warship before so it’s not out of question they might accidentally surface under another country’s warship.

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