JuneFall

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[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

And yet would have to be actively feminist to not gather anti feminists, since it sounds eerily like witch hunts.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The groups I know which organize women workers are also the groups arguing for better language. The liberal groups I know who argue against inclusive language are not only seldom the groups which often are not in solidarity with women workers when there are strikes or conflicts between bosses and workers (and take any breach of protocol as the left being unreasonable the demands breaking civility). Of course the latter sentence doesn't have to be true for all, but it is a surprising amount.

The Comintern was in practice quite inclusive and also policed what kind of words could be used for certain ethnic groups. Unquestionably the Comintern did achieve a lot. Since they achieved a lot I don't give arguments about that you can do either support women workers or instead change language much credit. The last half century did show also that you can do more than two things at the same time.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Also , it's important to note that In most of the gendered languages the masculine form is neutral and in my mind i wasn't gendering you but just using a word used to call someone attention.

Yeah, but we have quite a bit of research to the contrary, that the masculine form is actually not processed as neutral. There are some who try to keep up the "masculine means all", but honestly there are a couple of experiments which in my opinion falsify that.

One question you could ask is if statistically people mention the most common self labeled genders mostly equal in speech, but that is something that I have yet to see actually be done successfully. The contradiction to it was shown in studies though.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

The writers and producers did decide that a scene has to be there in which our protagonist does sever his last social connection that directly relates to the class and loyalty of his friends and crew. This of course has to be initiated by his former buddy as to not create a moral guilt.

While I do agree mostly with your reading from the in universe logic (especially that what he did academically was meh). Though it remains that there is a clear valuation of what work is good and which isn't. Some aspect of that is monetary valuation, the liberal leftist speech in regard to not wanting to work for the military is sadly not enough to breach it - as it is linked to the general anti war sentiment of the liberal's in relation to Vietnam and thus not honest, as we could see 4 years later after 9/11).

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Berlin 1944 argument is not that good.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctvvb7n02

With good connections you typically had ways to pass as being non Jewish in public life (or till you were assigned another status). All people over 15 had to have IDs, for Jewish kids this was often the case even when they were younger than 15. So open play by Jewish kids was virtually non existent in 1944 in Berlin.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/berlin

Beginning in 1942, Jews were deported from Berlin directly to the killing centers, primarily to Auschwitz-Birkenau. In 1943, most of the staff of the Reich Association of Jews in Germany, the central Jewish representative organization, was deported to Theresienstadt. All Jewish organizations and offices were disbanded. The majority of the remaining Jews in Berlin were deported by the end of April 1943.

More than 60,000 Jews were deported from Berlin:

more than 10,000 to the ghettos in eastern Europe about 15,000 to Theresienstadt and more than 35,000 to the killing centers in occupied Poland.

Hundreds of Jews committed suicide rather than submit to the deportations. Thousands of Jews remained in Berlin, mostly those who had gone into hiding and also part-Jews and Jews with a non-Jewish spouse, who were initially excluded from deportation. Almost all of those deported were killed.

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/untergetaucht-in-berlin-wir-waren-freiwild-3597964.html

Von über 5000 Juden, die in Berlin nach 1939 in den Untergrund gingen, überlebten nur 1800, darunter die Familie Segal. Der Aufwand, den sie betrieb, ist herausragend – und zugleich exemplarisch.

Out of 5000 Jews who lived in Berlin after 1939 in the underground only 1800 survived

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

I like RAND corp documents, they are openly arguing for and against things which some people think are "unthinkable". Then they print those up and distribute them in the typical US think tanks and places of governing power as well as archives (which is were I get them from mostly).

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I do agree with faer, there are a couple of CWs. It is about history of marginalized after all, so from what I remember there is some police brutality, some societal repression, some mentions of violence, some terms like deviant and worse are used, some words have outdated meanings (today other phrases would be used, but those were often only developed afterwards).

https://hexbear.net/comment/3878643 seems to be happy to give specific ones. The main frame is that of speeches given by Leslie. Over all what did affect me personally was more the acquainting myself with what is described and contrasting or complementing it with my lived experiences.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That scene is classism pure though.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

No worries, Junefall rather than Bro. At least if you use "Bro" as gendered term (or you want to be friendly, then use the name or "you" instead).

Also before I write more: I read that you commented and read what others wrote and answered, so I want to iterate that you are welcome here. You seem to be good faithed.

I dislike labeling myself as handicapped (well in my first language), as while my body and head work different to most of my friends and the people I meet outside there is no "norm", no default to which to conform to. Our bodies just are, they are shaped by evolution and such, but each body is unique and individual, there is no idealist perfected version of me. So while I can do some things and can't do other things are well or better than others mostly I am handicapped by society.

Society demands a ton of stuff which is not possible for me and stuff that is easy for me they act as if it is a hard incomprehensible thing to do. A friend of mine uses a wheelchair and society builds doors which in old buildings are often too small to get in, this is discrimination (handicap) by society, she does also bring her own chair to events (the wheelchair) which sometimes is troublesome when the tables or chairs in the room are bolted down to the ground and it also means that society does accommodate for people who need chairs (though not for me who can't properly sit on most chairs).

Basically my body is as it is and got its problems which could be better, but that is just life. I use tools and medication to improve how it works, but what I can and can't do is often mediated by society and society is which does actively handicap me. It is a concept I didn't come up with, but which re-framed how I think, so I just took it for me. Some aspects of it are covered under the so called: Social model of disability, but it isn't a 100% fit for me.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So this thing is mostly a show of the organizers having failed infrastructure, having failed to deal with relatively low rain and not having sensible sanitation infrastructure, as well as having a focus on car travel instead of public transport to the event area? I do get that in the desert your storm water takes time to get into the ground, but what you describe is not that big a problem, if you have the means to deal with it.

Rainfall reports from the National Weather Service suggest up to 0.8 inches of rain fell in the area from Friday morning through Saturday morning – approximately two to three months of rainfall for that location this time of year. Even small rainfall totals can lead to flooding in the dry Nevada desert.

Flood watches were in effect in northeast Nevada, to the east of Black Rock City. Those watches noted individual storms were producing up to one inch of rainfall, but higher totals — as much as 3 inches — would be possible through the weekend.

The festival, which began in 1986, is held each summer in Black Rock City – a temporary metropolis that is erected annually for the festival. The city comes complete with planning services, emergency, safety and sanitary infrastructure.

Doesn't seem to be "complete with sanitary and safety infrastructure". If you wouldn't do it in a desert you could also ensure good seepage, and using other kind of toilets would've reduced the problem with the toilets. All in all an example of US individualism in planing for communal events.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Bro (but honestly you could've also used my name), I am handicapped by society, too.

If you are one of us don't throw pathologizing words around as slurs.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (19 children)

You couldn't be more wrong about me aside from the age.

So you say you did not have time to reflect on your ableism and such?

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