JubilantJaguar

Not another one.

Very interesting, well done for the research!

What we can surely all agree is that all these names, especially Walkman (Bill Bryson: "it's not a man and it doesn't walk") were terrible.

There is no expectation that everyone has to agree with you, either offline or online.

Egregious straw man, obviously I don't think that.

enormous misunderstanding what [downvotes] are

Says who? You? What if it were you "misunderstanding" this? I know your version is the majority one, but there are plenty of people who agree with me that downvoting is toxic, hence the existence of downvote-free instances.

A downvote is softer than a negative comment, and if you think a downvote is a slap in the face, how should I interpret your negative comment? A kick in the face?

The big difference, to bore you with what you must already know, is that a downvote affects in most default configs the visibility of the comment. So it's effectively a mild form of censorship, which IMO is not "softer" than a negative reply. And it's certainly not better than than a constructive negative reply, which, believe it or not, is possible to do.

The best argument I have seen for your case is that downvoting provides an off-ramp for potentially sterile conflict. I.e. people hit the downvote button instead of replying with rage. That's a decent pragmatic argument. But whatever reason I personally manage to control my rage at other people's "wrong" opinions, so I don't think it's too much to ask them to do the same.

on somewhat of a crusade against downvotes

It's true. For me, to downvote an opinion (and this is what the vast majority of downvoting is) is the virtual equivalent of slapping someone in the face, or telling them to shut up. We don't do it in person, we shouldn't do it virtually.

First, I don't want to denigrate your project. I think it's great, so good luck to you.

But... As an end user of this kind of software, what I would like to see personally is for developers to work together more, in the spirit of FOSS. To pool their limited resources, instead of working in isolation on personal passion projects which (let's face it) will probably go nowhere. Encrypted messaging in particular is a massively hard nut to crack: it's technically difficult, and you're up against the almost prohibitive barrier of network effects (nobody will use new software until everyone uses it). To make all this extremely plain, what I personally would prefer you do with your talent and energy is to devote it to an existing project with an existing codebase and genuine prospects of succeeding at this almost impossible challenge. For example, Matrix.

That said, I'm sure you couldn't care less what I personally think, and if you insist on going it alone, then good luck to you all the same.

Yeah that's true but in this scenario it's your fault, not theirs.

This is silly. I asked for clarification about the features of Komoot. I got clarification. I offered my thoughts. End of story.

Every social-media platform strips EXIF metadata before publishing the photo.

So the issue is the trustworthiness of the social-media platform itself. Personally I always strip the metadata before sharing anything anywhere.

OSM has info on just about every local amenity imaginable, I find there's almost too much of it. As for "tips on timing" or any other hand-holding, don't need it, don't want it. Personally I enjoy discovery and being surprised when travelling. It's also why I never watch videos of my destinations in advance, only text if possible.

Each to their own. No need to take this personally, if you get value out of this stuff then that's great.

Yeah yeah I get all that. I just don't see what actual information Komoot provides that will procure me "the most beautiful" journey that's not already available in the standard OSM dataset. Anyway, I've made my point.

I was skeptical that this would pass muster as "notable" but it just about does.

Sure, but that just describes a navigation function. On any OSM client you can select the cycle mode and it will pick an optimal route which uses whatever cyclepaths are available. The result is the same.