yeah i'm just not understanding why collage with a computer is different from collage by hand other than the usual labor savings of any automated process.
JohnBrownNote
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they'd put it up if the CIA was paying for it
fuck the cia fuck all their artists and fuck defending this garbage.
For decades in art circles it was either a rumour or a joke, but now it is confirmed as a fact. The Central Intelligence Agency used American modern art - including the works of such artists as Jackson Pollock, Robert Motherwell, Willem de Kooning and Mark Rothko - as a weapon in the Cold War. In the manner of a Renaissance prince - except that it acted secretly - the CIA fostered and promoted American Abstract Expressionist painting around the world for more than 20 years.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
no those sound real dumb too. maybe the apple shit belongs in an "industrial design fads" exhibit.
I think we can say it was a pretty good piece of art then.
god i fucking hate this mentality so much. "you think it sucks but you remember it and not any of the mid stuff you saw around the same time, which makes it good" what a garbage rick and morty framework.
Ai images are just noise, devoid of meaning and content.
no i don't think that's accurate. ai art contains signifiers. there's a weird jump that we're tripping on between the prompt and the machine output but even if it is correct to say there's no meaning or content i don't see how that doesn't also apply to marble painting or whatever dogshit cia-funded "art" we're supposed to defend.
that people are so unwilling to inject any amount of human effort
nah i'm tired and don't have thousands of hours to learn a skill just to make something*. you could say the same thing about wordprocessors taking away from writing, stand mixers taking away from baking, or cad and 3d printers from other kinds of making.
*i don't actually have a use right now for generated art but maybe someday there'll be a blender plugin and i can dodge learning how baking textures actually works or something applicable to stuff i do work on.
Before we start, let's just get the basics out of the way - yes, stealing
it's not stealing, and it's not intelligence. we can't have a conversation about this or even think about it properly if we're using capitalist ideas about ownership and advertising copy definitions of terms. obviously the corporations are in the wrong, but it's apparently pretty easy to spin up your own model on a GPU that a lot of people own so there's more here to unpack than the surface level luddist anticapitalism.
I'll just say i see a lot of idealism in here and doing something with a computer doesn't make it different from doing it by manually- like if i shredded a bunch of prints and then made an unrelated mosaic with the pieces where you could still identify part of mona lisa's eye.
damn she hates nonbinary people enough to do terrorism?
ship, not boat.
somebody in the other thread estimated the mass of the container ship, wonder how fast it was going
not gonna rehash things we fundamentally disagree on a third time
i dunno, man "the deliberate lack of choice, the absence of human intervention" sounds pretty artistic to me, looking around at the kind of meta slop we consider to be art.